# State of the Union: Factional Warfare & Frontlines **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** feedback, official, devblog\ **Created:** [August 3, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264 "2022-08-03T16:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Ulpius\_Trajanus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_ulpius_trajanus/32/324755_2.png) [@Marcus\_Ulpius\_Trajanus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Ulpius_Trajanus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/82 "2022-08-04T01:10:40Z")
If my understanding is correct, this would place pirate frigates like the Daredevil, Dramiel, Worm and Cruor in the same arena with T2 Assault Frigates. Would they be a match against Harpies, Ishkurs, Jaguars and Retributions? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/83 "2022-08-04T02:01:34Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Everyone who joins gets the benefit of _considerably_ increased yields, increased bounties, and lower NPC taxes, in exchange for effectively putting themselves into a voluntary wardec with thousands of other players. Other than some tweaking to define the extent of “considerably”, this sounds like it would add some action across a wide swath of the game, and not be too difficult/bug-prone for CCP to implement. Personally I’d maybe go for a “10% decline in rewards across the affected regions, 15% reward for signing up, with potential extra rewards for high performance”. Yes buffs are definitely better than nerfs, but we don’t need CCP “breaking the economy” again. EVE if this wasn’t a “replacement” for FW, I’d like to see something like this as an add-on, “join the war effort” type. EVE should have a lot more faction-oriented, lore based conflict even beyond FW. Resource Wars, for instance, could have started the ball rolling in this direction. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/84 "2022-08-04T02:42:01Z")
The lack of feedback on such an important subject as to almost warrant a mega thd of its own says it all. Good luck pulling off the enthusiasm needed to make this float. Edit; @CCP. [You have been weighed #shorts - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obbOH5keR4) Just had to! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/85 "2022-08-04T03:09:52Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > The lack of feedback on such an important subject as to almost warrant a mega thd of its own says it all. Good luck pulling off the enthusiasm needed to make this float. Bro same. I scrolled this whole way looking for some old names from the lowsec pirate blogs years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Jilani\_Sklor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jilani_sklor/32/388071_2.png) [@Jilani\_Sklor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jilani_Sklor)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/87 "2022-08-04T06:13:30Z")
Can’t wait! will hopefully be giving as good of feedback as I can! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Voice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_voice/32/386683_2.png) [@The\_Voice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Voice)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/88 "2022-08-04T10:30:02Z")
So basically another nerf for farmers. ---
**Author:** ![Reuben\_Orlenard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reuben_orlenard/32/388432_2.png) [@Reuben\_Orlenard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reuben_Orlenard)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/89 "2022-08-04T10:47:49Z")
> [@\[Faction Warfare\] Meaningful, Strategic Goals in FW.2.0](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare-meaningful-strategic-goals-in-fw-2-0/364832): > > When we consider what is worth fighting for - and what is the manifest impact of our actions, CCP need to be bold and creative when defining the landscape. How the proposed plan would change the landscape; I would like to see some of the following features; (But I welcome other replies on what they can do to make interesting characteristics.) Major Construction ports \*Construction ports that have reduced cost / fuel when producing Faction specif… Feel free to check out my related post RE Faction warefare. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/90 "2022-08-04T10:50:43Z")
Farmers dont belong on the battlefield - “Slimey” Snake McCandless, 2044 ---
**Author:** ![OT\_Smithers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ot_smithers/32/431246_2.png) [@OT\_Smithers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OT_Smithers)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/91 "2022-08-04T13:10:29Z")
Concentrating FW players sounds good. Make faction war an actual war. You need to add a system that allows people to quickly fix or correct faction standings. Something like paying some isk. This removes one of the bigger reasons people avoid FW now, plus that way individuals and corporations can switch sides easily. ---
**Author:** ![Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paliphany_bradbury/32/441256_2.png) [@Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paliphany_Bradbury)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/92 "2022-08-04T14:30:39Z")
Well in my case it risk/reward has just made sense to sit in the hanger or grind PVE as needed. These days leaving the hanger just means I increase my risk of losing ISK more than the likely hood of making isk… And it’s not due to gankers. It’s the economy. I’ve been looking for quite awhile for a way to get more involved in PVP and EDEN without either being a corp slave or grinding ‘pew pew pew’. Until Fanfest FW just looked like a different grind. Might get me out of my hanger and I confess hesitant excitement at the potential of the changes. Can’t drag my Corp into this though. ---
**Author:** ![Thadius\_Faran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thadius_faran/32/374269_2.png) [@Thadius\_Faran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thadius_Faran)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/93 "2022-08-04T16:44:14Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/b/a0b902618964c7e0e44c37e4ba3e246856ebc7ab.jpeg) https://player.twitch.tv/?video=v1552098092&parent=forums.eveonline.com&autoplay=false ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/94 "2022-08-04T17:42:57Z")
ridiculous assessment ---
**Author:** ![Stefan\_Silviu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefan_silviu/32/374186_2.png) [@Stefan\_Silviu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stefan_Silviu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/95 "2022-08-04T17:44:11Z")
instead of catering to a handfull of players that are left in faction warfare CCP should do the changes to learning implants that were promised years ago ---
**Author:** ![Hydro\_Inquise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hydro_inquise/32/320290_2.png) [@Hydro\_Inquise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hydro_Inquise)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/96 "2022-08-04T18:12:22Z")
3 questions: - How do the new supply missions differ from the old ‘Stragetic Material’ faction war contracts from previous faction war content? - Do any of these changes impact non-faction war npc stations requesting courier deliveries to faction war stations? - Are supply contracts open to anyone (say open federal defense union agents) or are they explicitly faction war missions requiring registered enemy status with other sovereignties. A big deal for those that do business with Jita/Hek/Dodixie/Domain for most of their industry/distribution supplies. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/97 "2022-08-04T18:46:27Z")
Faction warfare is not for farmer’s. There is actual pve for that. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Drop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/white_drop/32/497210_2.png) [@White\_Drop](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/White_Drop)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/98 "2022-08-04T20:57:12Z")
After so many years without any meaningful change I am so excited to see upcoming rework of FW! Work your space magic, CCP 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/99 "2022-08-04T21:18:18Z")
Oh it will be _magical_ I am sure. 🤭 😏 🍿 :psyccp: ---
**Author:** ![Rhett\_Schouten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhett_schouten/32/412798_2.png) [@Rhett\_Schouten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhett_Schouten)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/100 "2022-08-04T21:38:20Z")
The mercenary feature is a key selling point. It’s what everybody is waiting for. Sure there should be some advantage to making a stronger commitment but the rest of us just want the opportunity to participate. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/101 "2022-08-05T01:06:16Z")
I generally like the design ideas and direction here. Especially the advantage system. The big issue for me though is the narrative hooks. EVE’s best as a place for telling emergent stories, and these mechanics are cool for that. But why should I care? What is at stake for the faction if we win or lose? Ect. Those questions are key. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264/102 "2022-08-05T01:14:42Z")
> [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > What is at stake for the faction if we win or lose? Nothing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-union-factional-warfare-frontlines/372264.md?page=6)