# State of the Warzone

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597>\
**Category:** Warfare & Tactics\
**Tags:** low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 25, 2017, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597 "2017-08-25T07:11:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![William\_Ormono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/william_ormono/32/21364_2.png) [@William\_Ormono](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/William_Ormono)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/42 "2017-09-01T13:39:29Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Sums the entire playerbase up in one interaction

You are part of that player base. Hypocrite.

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> and why I keep the ■■■■ away from that game, and its people.

Doing a great job at this btw

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**Author:** ![William\_Ormono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/william_ormono/32/21364_2.png) [@William\_Ormono](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/William_Ormono)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/45 "2017-09-01T14:19:25Z")

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> [@Verlyn](#):
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> I just hopped on just now in an arty HFI

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Im part of the playerbase for as long Im still ingame playing.
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> Right now, Im not, and for a reason I see as satisfactory.

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> I just hopped on just now in an arty HFI

See what I did there?

> [@Verlyn](#):
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> Would I log on from time to time to do other things on my own because I still enjoy sci-fi elements the eve universe offers? Possibly, but that’s really none your business at this point

Lol, you’re right, it’s not my business. I also don’t care. You’re the one making it other peoples business by posting. You do make me smile though.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/46 "2017-09-01T14:21:43Z")

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Let’s note, not a single of your question remotely inquires on the whys and hows I would even start calling everyone dipshits in this game.

Only disinterested questions instead, solely designed for appearance as pseudo-critical thinking and antagonizing in the face of something you don’t understand, or don’t want to, finding it offensive or hugely unfair and non-representative.

Ftr, any new random Alphas can now post on the forums, hence the really “being part of” the playerbase no longer applying very much. I could very well stop playing Eve for the next 10 years and yet still post here, then Id probably have scores of dipshits like you coming to tell me I can no longer be considered part of the playerbase since I dont play …

Also, and what of it, if I happen not to find much interest in the people and the crowd this game attracts anymore, and expressing how it is publicly, should that really feel so humiliating that you’d have to feel obliged to lash out at everybody’s defense ? Just to secure everyone else ? Do you really think anyone will even give a rat’s ass in the end about what will be said and deconstructed here ?

Yea, thought so, so just go have fun with your mates ingame, while I go take care of some other crap.

Cya

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**Author:** ![Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nameira_vanis-tor/32/15118_2.png) [@Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nameira_Vanis-Tor)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/47 "2017-09-01T14:23:36Z")

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Can the topic get back on track…?

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**Author:** ![Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nameira_vanis-tor/32/15118_2.png) [@Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nameira_Vanis-Tor)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/49 "2017-09-01T14:26:42Z")

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Apparently not then…

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/50 "2017-09-01T14:30:42Z")

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you’re right. i’ll remove my poste. you should flag any and all off-topic posts, it might help.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/51 "2017-09-01T14:46:21Z")

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It’s quite simple though.

I too once enjoyed the Point/click, Rock, Paper, Scissors game very much.

Over time though, I grew out of it, and found how you really had to be a dipshit to continue playing it.

(My) Definition of the Eve Dipshit:

Someone with a risk-adverse mind/playstyle, and who, despite all odds still being in his favor in a particular situation, still chooses to up the game even higher up to his favor, just to be that totally unnecessary and “content-denying” even more safer.

That’s just the norm in Eve spaceship interactions now. So nothing feeling-driven, like you’re suggesting about me, but simply more a genuine reason to be angry at a pure gameplay fact, and calling it for what it is … you guessed it … :

“Dipshittery”

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/52 "2017-09-01T14:47:26Z")

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i’ve never dipped into fw specifically, but i had my time in lowsec. i’m not into joining corps, but i used to play with groups and people, either on their good side or on their bad side. that never mattered much to me. 😊

i’m still lost on the point of it. it’s probably the biggest downer, next to how farmers kind of ruin the experience. i mean… there is no winner. no matter what, it’s a forever war with people eventually switching sides/alts and i could never get my mind into it.

i always loved CCP SoundWave’s idea of fw spreading out to highsec, so war actually has n effect on the population of higher sec empire space, but that never saw thw light of the day. and i’m not someone who plays just for fun; that doesn’t interest me.

so… tl;dr, i guess is: what gives?

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**Author:** ![Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nameira_vanis-tor/32/15118_2.png) [@Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nameira_Vanis-Tor)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/54 "2017-09-01T15:43:29Z")

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This is FW when it’s at its best; 10 days of carnage 250 Billion isk in damage of mostly Frigs up to HACs with no TIDI.

> **[The Huola Bloodbath » Crossing Zebras – EVE Online articles, videos, news](https://crossingzebras.com/the-huola-bloodbath/)**
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> Rising above the constant churn of killmails Factional Warfare escalates into the proverbial D-day a couple of times a year, resulting in the most spectacular mass destruction seen in lowsec. If FW has a narrative, these events are it. In last week’s...

That is how FW can be different to Null Sec when it works well.

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**Author:** ![DrButterfly\_PHD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drbutterfly_phd/32/18797_2.png) [@DrButterfly\_PHD](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrButterfly_PHD)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/55 "2017-09-01T16:24:34Z")

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> [@Nameira\_Vanis-Tor](#):
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> Can the topic get back on track…?

I gave up all hope of that long ago. I have newer threads on similar topics that are staying on track though!

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/56 "2017-09-01T17:11:28Z")

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Thank you for linking this. On my tablet, the text is 0.4cm big, so i’ll post-pone reading to later.

@DrButterfly_PHD

I have questions, if i may?

- Do people operate with, or against, any (non fw) lowsec pirates? Were there ever plans, or the idea, of working with lowsec pirates?
- What is the current political state? Who are the big guys, who are the upcoming small fries?
- What’s the currently preferred ship-meta, and why?
- How’s the situation with (from opposing factions) awoxers and bluekillers?
- How’s the social climate in the Minmatar public militia?
- How’s the situation with farmers, who influence the war?

You want to talk about things, and i want to know things, so please be _extensive_.

Thank you, Sir. o7

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-warzone/19597/57 "2017-11-23T07:11:25Z")

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