# Stealing kills in the event combat sites

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 5, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505 "2023-05-05T04:50:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyraxthehated_metesur/32/409997_2.png) [@cyraxthehated\_Metesur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/cyraxthehated_Metesur)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/101 "2023-05-06T14:29:51Z")

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Makes popcorn, goes back to little backwater system in lowsec, smiles…

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/102 "2023-05-06T16:34:24Z")

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> [@Expendable\_Unit](#):
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> That’s why I don’t do these dumb ass events

Not all events are like that 😃 Some events have really cool mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/103 "2023-05-06T16:45:04Z")

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Nobody flames out with the homophobic and racist vitriol like PVE players. It’s pretty wild.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/104 "2023-05-06T17:15:58Z")

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You complain about steals in the event combat sites ? I have an additional story, from nullsec.

The real steals in the event hacking sites **are from CCP**!

To whoever in Iceland who thought it would be a great/fair/fun event mechanic to force ships to uncloak as they enter the hacking sites: IT ISN’T ! In fact it’s unfair - and as you know, since this is about flying cloakies, it makes my blood boil.

It’s the same nonsense as in your replacement asteroid belt, with grid based uncloaking !

In fact, **it’s even worse** : if you sit in a site for 15 minutes, cloaked or not, without touching a single hacking container, the site disappears from the probe scanner and then despawns !..

And that’s for bloody nullsec space !

Stop the cloak hatred ! Give us at least a chance for 'splosions !!

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/105 "2023-05-06T17:20:25Z")

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> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> Stop the cloak hatred ! Give us at least a chance for 'splosions !!

If I had to guess, I would think they did that to prevent people in CloakyT3s sitting in these sites all day long insta-popping asteros/covops all day long as soon as these start to hack.

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/106 "2023-05-06T17:24:53Z")

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> [@Dr\_Offensive](#):
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> I can accept someone stealing my BS kill on an event site if they contributed to the site clearance in a meaningful way.
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> If someone was doing deliberately, and was jumping in at the last spawn and targeting my BS kills, I would spend the rest of the event following them around and messing up their kill stealing antics with T1 crap fit suicide ewar frigates, which would really end up being more fun than actually doing the event anyway.

That’s why, while I’m doing some combat PVE exploration, I don’t warp into someone’s site and keep jumping two-three hops away. In 80% of cases it’s always a better idea, because I find the same DED quality sites, even better, with lucky loot. It is always a “time game”. I did some of these competition games previously (I warped in, they warped in) and I learned that they are completely stupid from all points of view. This is not the Olympic type of games where all competitors have nearly equal conditions and all depends on practice and personal skills and in the end the winner will get a top reward 100%.

The issue of your idea is if you’ll do that in hi-sec, you’ll get “concorded”. Players who do this kind of griefing or baiting are very good at it. Like those baiters back in the day in dual rep cap stable Deimos or Proteus fits. They usually say: “because the MMO game allows them to intercept”, but not all are in a hurry to intercept a low-sec moon mining fleet somewhere in Aridia for example or a FW site at rush hour.

During an event, back in the day there was a case good for ganking in 0.5-0.6. So I decided to do some anti-ganking or -griefing games. Usually I’m not interested in this kind of game. I built a “very special” Flycatcher as our infamous heroes are doing. So, in a site someone warped in a Thrasher. When I was under NPC dps and EWAR effects, he locked my ship and started to nuke. His dps was surprisingly high. I’m thinking about his implants and boosters. At the moment my ship’s shield was at 55%. Just imagine how surprised he was when this happened before CONCORD response:

> **[Thrasher | Glore Lee | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/92020118/)**
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> Glore Lee (State War Academy) lost their Thrasher in Balle (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by Rexxar Santaro (Forex Corp) flying in a Flycatcher. Total Value: 10,601,734.22 ISK

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/107 "2023-05-06T17:30:13Z")

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Yes, poor poor cloaky and nullified asteros/covops who now roam around with impunity, hacking sites all day long.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/108 "2023-05-06T17:44:39Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> Nobody flames out with the homophobic and racist vitriol like PVE players.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/f/7/1f7710437e8c7a3810146d4d0960896501e94035.png)

These are the people @Githany_Red supports.

Why are antigankers so toxic?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/109 "2023-05-06T20:00:25Z")

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Remember: these people wouldn’t have been toxic and said all those discriminatory things if only we didn’t provoke them with unwanted PvP, without their consent, in this PvP MMO.

So really, it’s pretty much like _we’re_ responsible for them being racist and homophobic, which effectively makes _us_ racists and homophobes. If that’s not a reason to ban us from the game, I don’t know what is!

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/110 "2023-05-06T20:25:14Z")

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It’s kinda like

 ![Woke](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/4/b24bdf64dcf5ba6cbac8e6990588520abe6d742e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Hypatio\_Sapiens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hypatio_sapiens/32/368002_2.png) [@Hypatio\_Sapiens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hypatio_Sapiens)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/111 "2023-05-06T20:36:42Z")

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[quote=“Binkii Enat, post:1, topic:404505, username:Binkii\_Enat”]some asshole sat watching, kills the boss and gets the loot.  
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It seems like you figured it out. You can complain about it more or go with it… I agree with you it’s not ‘common courtesy’ but don’t confuse what should be with what is.

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**Author:** ![Hypatio\_Sapiens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hypatio_sapiens/32/368002_2.png) [@Hypatio\_Sapiens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hypatio_Sapiens)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/112 "2023-05-06T20:39:04Z")

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woke - a term used by selfish sexist racists to describe those who care about people less fortunate than themselves.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/113 "2023-05-06T20:39:14Z")

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> [@Binkii\_Enat](#):
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> since when did common courtesy leave the stage?

Since when did it ever exist in EVE?

EVE is a cold harsh place

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**Author:** ![Inaishite\_Teikei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inaishite_teikei/32/383275_2.png) [@Inaishite\_Teikei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inaishite_Teikei)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/114 "2023-05-07T00:49:09Z")

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> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> To whoever in Iceland who thought it would be a great/fair/fun event mechanic to force ships to uncloak as they enter the hacking sites: IT ISN’T ! In fact it’s unfair

If you want to hunt people at the event hacking sites, there are very, very simple ways to circumvent the issues you mention. In fact, it never even occured to me any of this could be a problem, because my standard operating methods worked perfectly fine. Hint: they don’t involve camping the site or warping to it at zero. I’d say more but I think it would do you well to put in some effort to figure it out for yourself.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/115 "2023-05-07T01:40:50Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stealing-kills-in-the-event-combat-sites/404505/116 "2023-05-07T01:41:32Z")

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