# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/226 "2022-11-19T13:51:33Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > I think Which is not what CCP thinks, according to the very article you cited. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/227 "2022-11-19T13:56:24Z")
I personally know Ahamo Otichoda. He has a 9 years old toon in PH and was giving a try to the new player experience with that toon. GuyBertini also follows the antigriefing protocols by salvaging the wreck of his victims, making isk out of it… … hold on, these gankers are not alphas! someone call CCP! ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/228 "2022-11-19T13:57:40Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > not what CCP thinks [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/9/b793d29b8a57dbe742103bbb191e29252be329c4.jpeg "The Times They Are A-Changin'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3qndXvBmr0) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/229 "2022-11-19T13:59:15Z")
This is wishful thinking. You are deluding yourself. Please stop before you get hurt. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/230 "2022-11-19T14:02:57Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > You are deluding yourself. Like when I predicted the current changes to ganking…lulz. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/231 "2022-11-19T14:09:30Z")
This is also a delusion. You are in pretty deep. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/232 "2022-11-19T14:11:10Z")
you guys have a tiny vision eve needs to be as brutal as it gets and ccp needs to be proud of that like in the old days hey kido want to play a ■■■■■■■ brutal game , for real cool kids thats the steam page if the “new bro” enters the game because he heard its uber hardcorezord he will think is cool wen some psychopaths blow his ship up enough with the CGI pretend we are space flight simulator ,star citizen ■■■■ … they do false advertisement and them ■■■■ the game because people with no investment cry :facepalm: ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/233 "2022-11-19T14:17:22Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > 5 Days Old You have no way of knowing if a ‘noob’ is _genuinely_ 5 days old. In fact simple maths dictates that **most** ‘5 day old noobs’ cannot really be 5 days old, as the sheer number of additional characters and alts created over time mean that the vast majority will have been created some time after the original character was created. Heck…I just created a new account myself…3 new ‘noobs’ just a few days old. MacGybo did a video where he showed that 15% of all his ganks were ’ 1 day old noobs’. Yet they were ‘noobs’ flying to Jita with billions of ISK in cargo…which no genuine noob would have. So this whole thing of bringing up ‘5 day old noobs’ and kill records is a complete farce. You have zero evidence that any such cases are genuinely 5 days old. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/234 "2022-11-19T14:22:01Z")
Nice to see Guybertini still plays. If you see him and remember, I would appreciate it if you would please tell him I said hi. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/235 "2022-11-19T17:47:22Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > complete farce Deflection and redirection are not the way of the Jedi. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/237 "2022-11-20T12:12:53Z")
No one cares what you “think”. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/238 "2022-11-20T14:07:08Z")
And yet…here you are, telling me that you don’t “care”. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/239 "2022-11-20T14:57:02Z")
We care about the culture of the game, which you are actively underlining. * * * ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/240 "2022-11-20T15:05:24Z")
* * * I’ve loved this game since Beta®. What I don’t love is the dishonesty of **most** gankers. The fact that they use roleplay as an excuse for shooting Ventures is disingenuous. No one believes that Jimmy was trying to save HS and “protect the asteroid belts”. Yet, they still go on about it while not honoring the very permits _they sell_. Shooting a mining vessel is a poor excuse of PvP. Call it what it is, too scared for real PvP, which can be found easily enough in LS & Null. * * * \*Wanna see the new skin I bought for my Marshal? * * * ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/241 "2022-11-20T16:42:02Z")
Shooting ventures is over since the latest CCP patch adressing griefing. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/242 "2022-11-20T22:39:24Z")
Obviously… * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/1/df1e54a2ba84318ddb259fc5b8737664b81bda37.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/243 "2022-11-20T22:52:58Z")
That Venture has an offensive electronic warfare module fitted. It wasn’t a civilian. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/244 "2022-11-20T23:06:10Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > I’ve loved this game since Beta®. What I don’t love is the dishonesty of **most** gankers. The fact that they use roleplay as an excuse for shooting Ventures is disingenuous. No one believes that Jimmy was trying to save HS and “protect the asteroid belts”. Yet, they still go on about it while not honoring the very permits _they sell_. Shooting a mining vessel is a poor excuse of PvP. Call it what it is, too scared for real PvP, which can be found easily enough in LS & Null. All PvP is real PvP. All your crying won’t change that 😃 And the RP is fine. Better than people mindlessly botting ice. They are engaged in the game and creating content. What’s funny is instead of stopping them yourself, you just cry to daddy CCP to save you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/245 "2022-11-20T23:56:02Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > That Venture come on D show her the many times you murdered people with a venture i want to see your claws 🐈 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/246 "2022-11-21T00:06:25Z")
I didn’t murder anyone, I only deterred non-consensual PvP griefers in self-defense. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=13)