# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Kell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucas_kell/32/393556_2.png) [@Lucas\_Kell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucas_Kell)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/290 "2022-11-22T22:33:17Z")
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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/292 "2022-11-22T22:46:26Z")
> [@Qia\_Kare](#): > > I have never had anyone who came after me in any area of space ever cross that line into wishing me real life harm, at least to my face. That applies to gankers, lowsec pirate corporations or small gangs, NPSI fleets, wardeccers, enemy nullsec alliances or whatever else has come to shoot at me or my space assets. I have seen, though, plenty of people cross that line when they lose a mining or hauling ship, and that evidence guides my opinion on which class of players are responsible for the most line crossing. I’ve been in the Why Was I Ganked channel for months and have never ever seen a ganker wish any player real life harm. Sure, they tease and smack talk and ask for permits to be bought ( which is the primary reason for talking to them ). On the other hand…some of the rants that I have seen aimed **at** the gankers have been as foul mouthed and abusive as one could imagine, including rl threats and so on. Which is why it irks to see some here twist the whole thing round and make out that it is the gankers who are abusive. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/293 "2022-11-22T22:57:25Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Griefers like Aiko She popped your Velator, now didn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/295 "2022-11-23T01:49:59Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > gankers who are abusive 99% of the time, gankers **are** the “line crossers”…deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/296 "2022-11-23T02:18:36Z")
The authority has spoken, guys. We can finally shut down this debate for good. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/297 "2022-11-23T02:27:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > this debate There’s no debate. Take a minute to consider who does the provoking. Anti-ganking is a response to HS ganking. The AG community is defensive while the gankers are offensive. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how that plays out. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/298 "2022-11-23T02:30:37Z")
Who said anything about AGs? I believe the reference was being made to the carebears who threaten to kill and rape you when you blow up their ships (I’ve had at least two dozen such encounters over my years playing, and I don’t even gank). ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/299 "2022-11-23T02:32:12Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > (I’ve had at least two dozen such encounters over my years playing, and I don’t even gank). That sounds far-fetched. Why would anyone be so silly? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/300 "2022-11-23T03:13:49Z")
Why dont you go ask them…the carebears doing such things… last year when my mother died i got onto EvE 2 weeks after the funeral, yeah i was being lazy…i took 6 orca out to an ice field…my alliance had 23 other ppl on it…but 1 guy decided to talk trash about my 6 orca sucking up the belt ignoring the hulks and mackinaws… When i called him on it telling him i was still on the 1 rock…he told me to drink bleach and kill myself in RL…i wasnt in the mood, so i petioned CCP even sent them a copy of the recent death certificate…to this day i think that persons character is still in the system without NPC stations where i last saw him…and i check occasionally…it hasnt logged in sine that day. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/301 "2022-11-23T04:09:34Z")
Should I post the Lucky Star collage again? lol ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/302 "2022-11-23T04:12:02Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > deal with it I deal with BS by ignoring it. For someone who claims to have been in the game 20 years you do seem remarkably clueless about what goes on in it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/303 "2022-11-23T05:57:10Z")
Could market manipulation be a form of griefing to a newer Capsuleer? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/304 "2022-11-23T06:13:19Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Griefers like Aiko and here fanatics go out of their way to stir up that response though. They’ve spent years carefully refining how to push peoples buttons, what works, what doesn’t and what provokes the most extreme responses. Aiko is relatively new to EVE LOL. I mean she didn’t know surely to make a burner account to grief Altara. Oh wait. That was you 😃 > [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > When i called him on it telling him i was still on the 1 rock…he told me to drink bleach and kill myself in RL…i wasnt in the mood, so i petioned CCP even sent them a copy of the recent death certificate…to this day i think that persons character is still in the system without NPC stations where i last saw him…and i check occasionally…it hasnt logged in sine that day. Ah. A snitch. Got it. You should have just ganked him friend 😃 ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/305 "2022-11-24T00:53:17Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Ah. A snitch. Got it. One of “those guys” eh? Noted. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/306 "2022-11-24T01:36:08Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > One of “those guys” eh? Noted. Bro it ain’t my fault you weak 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/307 "2022-11-24T01:52:39Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Could market manipulation be a form of griefing to a newer Capsuleer? Get with the plan. _Everything_ is griefing to a new capsuleer. I mean…that new ‘Docking’ animation is damned scary isn’t it. I’m surprised there are not already people reporting to the doctor with PTSD after enduring it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/308 "2022-11-24T02:03:38Z")
> **The docking logo would look perfect with the word Exploding..** > > ![Exploding](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/d/a/7da7836265d3cd60e8222c6bf04d5cbf71eef715.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/309 "2022-11-24T03:33:52Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You should have just ganked him friend for normal smack talk…in game stuff and general bad attitude…but toxic behavior like RL threats or wishing RL harm on someone…no fuq them, they need to go, good riddance, ban the lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/311 "2022-11-24T05:12:47Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > for normal smack talk…in game stuff and general bad attitude…but toxic behavior like RL threats or wishing RL harm on someone…no fuq them, they need to go, good riddance, ban the lot of them. Bruh. Its words on the internet from a random you don’t know. How can it possibly bother you? > [@x123xxx](#): > > Gix has a hard time figuring things out. It’s just a vidya game to him. Even though he never undocks. I’m undocked right now bruv 😃 And yes, it is a vidya game 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chupi\_fantastika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chupi_fantastika/32/453335_2.png) [@Chupi\_fantastika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chupi_fantastika)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/312 "2022-11-24T07:16:50Z")
I always curious about why this capsulers gank orcas, if you check zkilloboard usually the ORCA drop its 10 to 50 millions only but they need to spend up to 80M in ship for get the kill. Its have no sense. Its an interesting behaviour because after the ORCA pop, one of the gankers paste the orca zkill related in the help channel, hope @ccp [@ISD](https://forums.eveonline.com/groups/isd) guys explain if thats the purpose of rookie and help channels. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=16)