# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/335 "2022-11-25T19:06:01Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> you are all for the ecosystem

Only parts of it. I wouldn’t lose any sleep in goons perished.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/336 "2022-11-25T19:11:07Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Only parts of it. I wouldn’t lose any sleep in goons perished.

Now I am guessing that the same could be said about culling dolphins then?

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/337 "2022-11-25T19:31:14Z")

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Is there a purpose? (I was going to say “porpoise” but i thought it might miss the mark)

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/338 "2022-11-25T19:36:00Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> Yes there is no profit from doing this, but we don’t care.

I know some corps do SRP for their gankers…so there is actually zero cost to the ganker and thus _any_ kill is profit.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/339 "2022-11-25T19:53:58Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> I wouldn’t lose any sleep in goons perished.

Really?

The goons were the initial Sealcubs roaming null sec in their frigate gangs, gangbanging the sharks.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/340 "2022-11-25T20:07:11Z")

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So now goons had become like dolphin and killer whales then?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/341 "2022-11-25T21:47:34Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> killer whales

Killer Whales are dolphins. They also like seal clubbing.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/342 "2022-11-25T22:54:43Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> roaming null sec

They do a LOT of the HS ganking. I don’t care about what they do (or did) in Null. Everything is fair game in LS/Null.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/343 "2022-11-26T06:03:01Z")

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I didn’t wish for this to go where it did but how does one become a dolphin?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/344 "2022-11-26T06:27:33Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Everything is fair game in LS/Null.

Correction, everything is fair game once you undock 😃

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**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/345 "2022-11-26T08:16:05Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> The guy’s barely 2 days old. Who thinks this is good for the game?

The griefers do. Y’know those big loud mouths who think that griefing noobs in Ventures is “PvP” 😅 and then cry when devs introduce mechanics that force them to face off with real actual PvPers in Low and Nullsec 😂

The Future is PvE  
Ms. Bedlam 🤓

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/346 "2022-11-26T08:27:42Z")

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The now is PvE, there is no future.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/347 "2022-11-26T08:28:47Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Only parts of it. I wouldn’t lose any sleep in goons perished.

I love the out of nowhere “ grr i hate goons “. Classic eve. We hate you too. Kisses.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/348 "2022-11-26T09:36:57Z")

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> [@Total\_Bedlam](#):
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> The griefers do. Y’know those big loud mouths who think that griefing noobs in Ventures is “PvP” 😅 and then cry when devs introduce mechanics that force them to face off with real actual PvPers in Low and Nullsec 😂
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> The Future is PvE

Except most of them aren’t noobs.

LOL, the future is PvE only? That’s gonna end EVE.

> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> I love the out of nowhere “ grr i hate goons “. Classic eve. We hate you too. Kisses.

Yennoe, I lived in null a short time and have interacted with all of the big alliances over my EVE life.

To be real, never really had a bad interaction with a goon. All seemed to be pretty chill.

Other peeps now tho, LOL.

And don’t get me started on Dark Shines. I’m sure his kneecaps haven’t recovered yet.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/349 "2022-11-26T11:05:47Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> how does one become a dolphin?

To become a killer whale, which is a dolphin, you spend a lot on microtransactions or in-app purchases in free-to-play games for the purpose of PvP.

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**Author:** ![Dalten\_Henard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dalten_henard/32/510529_2.png) [@Dalten\_Henard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dalten_Henard)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/350 "2022-11-26T11:35:33Z")

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Doesn’t it somehow diminish an achievement if the only factor in accomplishing it is time? Running those marks to a Blood Raiders station through sov space and avoiding a gate camp whilst carrying several bill in isk was certainly exciting. And how dumb do you feel when you warp directly into a camp when you could have taken a look from that nearby celestial… I guess I don’t really understand it, but surely a  
variable in your isk efficiency plan would make its achievement all the better, rather than just inevitable? Isn’t that what the game is about?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/351 "2022-11-26T14:32:32Z")

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> [@Total\_Bedlam](#):
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> those big loud mouths

Thank you for being an example and showing us what to avoid.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/352 "2022-11-26T14:33:24Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> out of nowhere

I’m glad someone caught the randomness of it! I love to hate goons 💕❤💕… Goons are grrrrrrreat **adversaries**!

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> Offshore killer whales primarily eat sharks and scientists have discovered that the whales’ teeth are worn down over time due to sharks’ rough skin. @Iceacid_Frostpacker

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> free-to-play games for the purpose of PvP

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> free-to-play games for the purpose of PvP

I propose that we substitute “porpoise” whenever possible…

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> [@Dalten\_Henard](#):
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> you could have taken a look from that nearby celestial…

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An excellent gate camp has a bubble at the celestial…and maybe an interceptor.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/353 "2022-11-26T14:44:59Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> I love to hate goons

Must be _easy_ to hate a powerful alliance via an alt that has zero killboard record at all in 10 years ! That must be a record.

How is it that none of you guys ever have any record that you have ever done anything in Eve ? Lucas has no killboard record in 3 years…you have none whatever in 10 years…Bedlam has none whatever.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/354 "2022-11-26T15:22:13Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> an alt that has zero killboard

It’s an alt, I’ve said it a hundred times. Notice the name would show up at the very bottom of local chat? That wasn’t an accident mate.

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