# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad:

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/355 "2022-11-26T15:28:01Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> It’s an alt, I’ve said it a hundred times.

But that’s just it. The rest of us are posting on genuine mains that anyone can see are active in the game. The only reason for hiding behind an alt is dishonesty…just coming on to snipe from the sidelines.

I think I’m just going to block anyone without an active killboard. Bye.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/356 "2022-11-26T15:41:02Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> The only reason for hiding behind an alt is dishonesty…

If you think **REAL** hard you might come up with another reason…

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**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/357 "2022-11-26T16:29:31Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> An excellent gate camp has a bubble at the celestial…and maybe an interceptor.

Huh…many thousands of jumps all around null going to a celestial first and I never saw anyone doing that…I must have been amazingly lucky…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/358 "2022-11-26T16:46:15Z")

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Since they became the Grooms more people do hate them though.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/359 "2022-11-26T17:00:44Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Goons are grrrrrrreat **adversaries**!

Careful…they bite.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/360 "2022-11-26T17:06:38Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Must be _easy_ to hate a powerful alliance via an alt that has zero killboard record

Perhaphs she is in the horde and has to scurry to the station every time a seal clubbing goon is sighted coming her way.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/361 "2022-11-26T17:37:53Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Perhaphs she is

…a victim of targeted harassment.

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/3/6/c36474295321789057fab1720c92fab9ee10ed95.gif)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/362 "2022-11-26T17:40:30Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> a victim of targeted harassment

We can’t have that.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/363 "2022-11-26T17:41:01Z")

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This is what my Abyssal Runner’s Clone looks like.

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> **[Evepraisal - Appraisal 15i9up: 3.4 Billion Buy / 3.74 Billion Sell](https://evepraisal.com/a/15i9up)**
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> High-grade Crystal Omega - 1
> Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-806 - 1
> Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-906 - 1
> Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-706 - 1
> High-grade Crystal Epsilon - 1
> Zainou 'Gnome' Weapon...

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I have to play it safe, my ship costs a LOT more.

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/3/5/13519701a08e0fb7852686b0f8dd19bd93f6bd29.gif)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/364 "2022-11-26T17:43:14Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> I have to play it safe

I recommend you stay clear of @Githany_Red . She has a podding fetish.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/365 "2022-11-26T17:53:30Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/6/a/76a87274c3cb442a1d35274d124c9c1158f27eec.png)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/366 "2022-11-26T18:18:17Z")

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The way CCP sees it is that it is only griefing if you keep targeting one player.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/367 "2022-11-26T20:18:18Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> keep targeting one player

That’s a “thing”…but not the only “thing”…

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/368 "2022-11-26T20:29:59Z")

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By _those_ standards, I was ‘griefed’ when I lost my Gnosis to a Praxis in a 0.4 system. I mean, I was just minding my own business…actually collecting a ship from asset safety retrieval. I did not ‘consent’ to be attacked specifically by that ship. And my collection and retrieval of my own ship was ‘disrupted’.

And a mere 7m ISK worth of stuff was dropped. Not exactly massive profit either.

But…unlike the whiners here, I typed ‘good fight’ in Local after it all.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/369 "2022-11-26T20:32:53Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> in a 0.4 system

Next!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/370 "2022-11-26T20:47:02Z")

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Evil low sec greifers. Going after low hanging low value low isk drop ships.

And didn’t bother to send you a dual request first.

Low sec was never meant to be a place where there would be nonconsensual pvp.

It was always meant to be the place where one could accept the dual request.

I know. I was there in 1999 when Hellman first visualized the game.

In fact, I was the one that gave him the idea.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/371 "2022-11-26T21:01:32Z")

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> Often this anti-social behavior becomes the main goal of the game rather than winning.

So how does one win EvE?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/372 "2022-11-26T21:01:42Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Evil low sec greifers. Going after low hanging low value low isk drop ships.

I know…and picking on my poor defenceless Gnosis using Mega Laser II with 1200 DPS just so some psychopath can get another blue record in killboard. WHY can’t CCP make it instead so that we fly like pixies through enchanted forests full of Bambi clones and sing Kumbaya and exchange fairy lockets when we meet anyone else. I mean…I am quite certain that is what the original devs really intended.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/373 "2022-11-26T21:08:54Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> and picking on my poor defenceless Gnosis

“It is only PvP if it is a fair fight” said Whinebaby

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**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/374 "2022-11-26T21:18:01Z")

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people do not understand that I am a being wholly dependent on the Creator, in thought, speech and deed…

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