# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/375 "2022-11-26T21:18:12Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > So how does one win EvE? Ah…that’s when you can no longer operate a mouse and have to call out to the nurse at the geriatric home to put your selected letter up on the Scrabble board. ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/376 "2022-11-26T21:20:08Z")
I’m not supposed to win eve online… ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/377 "2022-11-26T21:23:07Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > WHY can’t CCP make it instead so that we fly like pixies through enchanted forests full of Bambi clones and sing Kumbaya and exchange fairy lockets when we meet anyone else. I mean…I am quite certain that is what the original devs really intended. A WoW clone, that’s not a WoW clone. Brilliant. CCP should dedicated more that 60% of its development team to work on this immediately. The other 40% should continue to find ways of improving protecting the trillion isk noobs in their marauders and freighters from alpha ventures. ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/378 "2022-11-26T21:25:28Z")
people don’t understand what eve online is… ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/379 "2022-11-26T21:30:36Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > “It is only PvP if it is a fair fight” No one said that. * * * > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I know. I was there in 1999 when Hellman first visualized the game. > > * * * > > In fact, I was the one that gave him the idea. Proof? ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/380 "2022-11-26T21:35:11Z")
you’ve come a long way, but you’ll have to start all over again… ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/381 "2022-11-26T21:43:20Z")
Circle of life? * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/e/2/1e29bad5cad6be435dc5f6a1c9cdee7a4df9cce1.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/382 "2022-11-26T21:45:13Z")
that’s right, but it’s not the same as… going beyond… ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/383 "2022-11-26T21:54:09Z")
> [@Firnikkar\_Firn](#): > > going beyond… Beyond what? * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/9/d/d9de4a38e8106b6541b2aa5f607327e4135435f7.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/384 "2022-11-26T21:56:18Z")
the source is located outside… ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/385 "2022-11-26T21:58:01Z")
In the driveway? You’re speaking in riddles…why? * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/f/22f7aee0b2518e369799b35fac7d387ed1026d47.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/386 "2022-11-26T22:36:59Z")
> [@Firnikkar\_Firn](#): > > that’s right, but it’s not the same as… going beyond… When people are told ’ go back…its not your time yet’, really they are mis-hearing ’ have you bought a mining permit ?’ ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/387 "2022-11-26T22:49:08Z")
everything I have ever owned and will possess, I get for free… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/388 "2022-11-27T01:07:50Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > have you bought a mining permit ? 25% off Mining Permits till Monday ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/c/f/acfe0fd5614988687847ea4020b8b60d2afb5df2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/389 "2022-11-27T02:04:19Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > It’s an alt, I’ve said it a hundred times. > [@x123xxx](#): > > …a victim of targeted harassment. No matter how you try to justify it, in the end it comes down to nothing but a public admission of your own cowardice. You’re admitting to everyone that you’re afraid of other players, and what they can potentially do to you within the game, despite a never-ending stream of claims of wealth and ability. You even seem somewhat _proud_ to be a coward. I guess in your mind this is working splendidly, but everyone else can’t stop cringing. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/390 "2022-11-27T02:54:43Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No matter how you try to justify it You’ll never understand, but that’s ok. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/391 "2022-11-27T03:03:31Z")
No, I understand perfectly. You are a coward, you are afraid of imaginary threats from other players on the forums, and in the absence of personal achievement against the particular player demographics you dislike, you appropriate changes to the game by the developers as if they are victories that you somehow earned, taunting these players because they’re being forced out of the game by patch changes as if you’re the one who defeated them. It’s a lot of cringe, and it’s very sad, but hey, some people prefer to settle for less. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/392 "2022-11-27T04:10:19Z")
Over 3,000 views celebrating CCP making a positive change to gameplay. Thanks for providing the needed tears along the way. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/393 "2022-11-27T04:26:12Z")
It’s alright, I’ve had nearly two decades of fun here, and you had what, two decades of non-stop whining on alts? I’ve gotten my money’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/394 "2022-11-27T06:40:46Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No matter how you try to justify it, in the end it comes down to nothing but a public admission of your own cowardice. You’re admitting to everyone that you’re afraid of other players, and what they can potentially do to you within the game, despite a never-ending stream of claims of wealth and ability. You even seem somewhat _proud_ to be a coward. The more oldbie billionaire haulers and blingy Marauders come on to whine about ganking affecting player interest and retention…the more their very existence disproves that claim. THEY clearly didn’t leave the game because of ganking, thus every one of them is ironically a testimony to the fact that it is entirely possible to remain in the game with ganking in it. They prove so. The delicious irony of it ! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=20)