# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/21 "2022-11-07T21:20:24Z")
Changes not in yet and the whines already commencing. Night follows day level of predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Tec8n0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tec8n0/32/469865_2.png) [@Tec8n0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tec8n0)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/22 "2022-11-07T21:30:05Z")
I think killing newbro ventures and pod them is great for the game, and its fun. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/23 "2022-11-07T21:30:55Z")
Better now than in his ore strip hulk + aoedes. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/24 "2022-11-07T21:31:53Z")
You dont need tether or positive security status to dunk a venture. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/25 "2022-11-07T21:48:16Z")
Why didn’t antigankers save the Venture??? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/26 "2022-11-07T21:49:50Z")
CCP, can you please fix ganking? It is getting absolutely out of control! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/27 "2022-11-07T21:58:58Z")
It’s hard 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Davidius\_Pratticus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/davidius_pratticus/32/478437_2.png) [@Davidius\_Pratticus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Davidius_Pratticus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/28 "2022-11-07T23:42:21Z")
Though not much of a challenge. Newbro barely has the muscle-memory to turn on his mining lasers, let alone launch drones and GTFO before he dies. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/29 "2022-11-08T00:29:43Z")
he lost less than a million he got the venture in the tutorial its not like the ■■■■ I’m done i think is really more harmful to him to spend 20 days safe mining in this piece of ■■■■ ship and think that is the game ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/30 "2022-11-08T00:33:20Z")
I can’t stress the ability of muscle memory and learning your hot keys. That’s what keeps you alive 😃 It’s why I’m so sad I have to re-learn them all for my mage 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/31 "2022-11-08T01:13:55Z")
it is it helped me learn about fits so yeah ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/32 "2022-11-08T01:23:34Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > so wild to me that people will go to these lengths for a vidya game I feel like that too especially when people say I’m playing wrong because I really don’t strictly play for the isk, sure it’s nice to get it but it’s not really the point for me. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/33 "2022-11-08T01:27:58Z")
> [@Davidius\_Pratticus](#): > > Newbro barely has the muscle-memory to turn on his mining lasers, let alone launch drones and GTFO before he dies. How is the newbro going to learn without a ganker to teach? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/34 "2022-11-08T01:28:17Z")
Very true sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/35 "2022-11-08T01:40:14Z")
> [@Davidius\_Pratticus](#): > > Newbro barely has the muscle-memory to turn on his mining lasers, let alone launch drones and GTFO before he dies. Not so fast. The lesson of the day was PvP, with an emphasis on losing your ship. Bonus points given for expressing yourself in local. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/37 "2022-11-08T01:44:05Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > but it’s not really the point for me. Me neither, credit card more time efficient. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/38 "2022-11-08T10:32:40Z")
I agree with the OP Raikon TheSword Bankuga should be banned for encouraging griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/39 "2022-11-08T11:19:03Z")
It’s great for the game because they are playing a non-consentual PVP game, so they need to get used to dying at the hands of other players. Better to have lost 700k isk now, than later on - flying a 15b Freighter - because they never learnt to be careful. When and if they join a corp, they will get help to easily recoup those 700k isk and get much better fits. So yes, it does help the game a lot. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/40 "2022-11-08T14:33:35Z")
I’m not going to say, “[**I told you so**](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125/)”. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/41 "2022-11-08T17:59:09Z")
> **[Venture | I Q | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104503295/)** > > I Q (Ministry of War) lost their Venture in Colelie (Sinq Laison) Total Value: 2,570,657.52 ISK Another nub grefed! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396.md?page=3)