# Still Griefing New Players :parrotdad: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396 "2022-11-07T19:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/144 "2022-11-10T15:26:46Z")
I just know that one day I will fall asleep and never wake back up from that sleep. so i say who gives a ■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/145 "2022-11-10T15:28:28Z")
“Don’t take life seriously. Either way, you won’t make it out alive,” quote from **Alphonse Allais**. — This formula full of wisdom is often attributed to the wonderful humorist, Henri Jeanson’s compatriot, Alphonse Allais. It took a serious investigation to pinpoint the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/146 "2022-11-10T15:31:17Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > CCP in its imminent wisdom thought it best to slowly roll out the nerfs, so as to not cause mass pandemonium amongst the gankers and their supporters. Ganking in HS is entering its terminal phase. “Death on a cracker” is a popular American phrase. Sigh. And then you will see even more noobs leaving due to the real reason noobs leave…boredom. A totally safe highsec is a _boring_ highsec. You really, seriously, think thousands of people join Eve solely to watch a mining laser all day and accumulate ISK just for the heck of it ? And when the new brand of increasingly risk averse noobs venture into lowsec looking for some excitement…they’ll find it even more carnage than before as that’s where all the gankers will then be…along with the existing gate campers, etc. The sheer contrast between ultra-safe highsec and pandemonium lowsec will be huge…and none of those noobs will have had any opportunity to get used to losing ships. Anti ganker fools will ultimately destroy the game. So enjoy pretending for a while that you guys are knights in shining armour who are saving things. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/147 "2022-11-10T16:27:43Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > accumulate ISK just for the heck of it Or…they see other countless opportunities to buy bigger and better ships to make more ISK in Null. Maybe CCP will fix the Rorqual… You’re the one with limited vision, friend. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/148 "2022-11-11T04:48:39Z")
Another 1-day old noob getting _griefed_. * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/9/f/69fb57ce3b4bc3f148352f4e60aa1cdf9e81c2f6.jpeg) * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/a/2/6a2c5fbb2ddd981eecf951c5ce3eada02243577b.jpeg) [**JT Krieger**](https://zkillboard.com/character/95206400/) must be realy proud of that one… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/149 "2022-11-11T05:03:04Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Another 1-day old noob getting baptized ![images](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/a/ffa812e3075deb64fb6a977e7906a24d77a9f4c6.jpeg) amen praise the lord ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/150 "2022-11-11T07:03:17Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Anti ganker fools will ultimately destroy the game. So enjoy pretending for a while that you guys are knights in shining armour who are saving things Why would any of my actions ever destroy the game I am an advocate of unleashing death and destruction as content, I feel the only difference is I pick targets that feel the same. With the possibility that these changes may mean the demise of ganking (which I doubt, it was nice to see a code fleet of 45 cat flying aroundlast night, more than the safety fleet 🤭, let’s see what happens after 7 days) we will move one to new targets. Eve sure has a lot of people that fit our target profile luckily. As much as null blocks get looked at in a negative way at least they decide who to fight and work together, why the rest of us seem to think oh just kill anyone it’s what your meant to do, lazy asses that’s all ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/151 "2022-11-11T07:20:43Z")
Can you prove he’s an actual nub? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/152 "2022-11-11T07:57:30Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Or…they see other countless opportunities to buy bigger and better ships to make more ISK in Null. LOL ! You want to protect these carebears because the one in a thousand chance of being ganked in highsec is too much for the poor risk averse people to handle…yet you think those people are gonna go zooming off to nullsec ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/153 "2022-11-11T08:05:42Z")
To be a krab hiding under an umbrella? Too right they would. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/154 "2022-11-11T08:08:11Z")
Oh I am. 33 ventures killed yesterday in protest for the recent docking and tether changes. The slaughter will continue. In the past, I would leave new players in peace or refund their losses. Now I’m just hastening the end of EVE since CCP don’t appear to give a sh\*t about the game any more and have caved in to the whiners. Edit: I will also say that NEPF and Thotamon were in system and did nothing to stop me. So much for AG protecting newbros. ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/155 "2022-11-11T08:32:03Z")
He did not get “griefed”. He undocked a non-consentual PVP game and he lost a fight. He will be ok, just like all of us have been after losing our first ship. He will probably learn to be more careful in the future. And if he finds he does not like it enough he will leave the game - but what are the odds he would have stayed anyway? All losses in this game are non-consentual, so he would have left at one point or the other. Tell me, have you played PvPvE games such as Hunt Showdown, The Cycle or Marauders? This game is like those … except it’s an MMORPG with spaceships. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/156 "2022-11-11T08:40:10Z")
> [@Optimus\_Maximus](#): > > He will be ok, just like all of us have been after losing our first ship. He was mining again later in another Venture but flying smarter this time. Ganking works. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/157 "2022-11-11T09:31:48Z")
> [@JT\_Krieger](#): > > Edit: I will also say that NEPF and Thotamon were in system and did nothing to stop me. So much for AG protecting newbros. So want a rematch tonight, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/158 "2022-11-11T09:53:51Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9ea7fc83ee83404aea18da670b0da0851217b57.png) ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/159 "2022-11-11T10:11:15Z")
> [@Eistiras\_Enderas](#): > > “Some men just want to watch the world burn.” Alfred Pennyworth And the problem with this is that there are not enough “good people” to say this is sick and should be good enough to make sure those type of people never get their hands on anything but brooms. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/160 "2022-11-11T11:05:57Z")
And make sure they don’t have any Matches, Lighters or Flint to ignite those brooms… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/161 "2022-11-11T11:12:40Z")
Think how quickly the server will run once combat is removed. Lots more players will join knowing their mining is going to be faster. ---
**Author:** ![Dalten\_Henard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dalten_henard/32/510529_2.png) [@Dalten\_Henard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dalten_Henard)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/162 "2022-11-11T11:41:22Z")
‘Those type of people’ probably want to burn the world because they don’t like what it is. Those that are happy with the world want to burn ‘those type of people’. Now which side of the coin do you think you are here? What do you think you are burning? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/still-griefing-new-players/383396/163 "2022-11-11T12:48:39Z")
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