# Stop the ganking start the pvping **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 10, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371 "2022-09-10T06:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/41 "2022-09-10T17:10:46Z")
> [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > People being saying eve is going to die since 2008 maybe longer I confirm this is true, my main is from 2008 and in 2008 people were saying that EVE was dyring, I always took it as a joke. Nowadays I consider natural. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/42 "2022-09-10T17:11:52Z")
> [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > People being saying eve is going to die since 2008 maybe longer. Yet here it is. Lol if it dies it dies what is there to do like? Oh well. While its still going why not? Since 2003. EVE has actually been dying since 2014. ---
**Author:** ![Travonus\_Trapoll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/travonus_trapoll/32/428501_2.png) [@Travonus\_Trapoll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Travonus_Trapoll)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/43 "2022-09-10T17:13:01Z")
Yea i get what you are saying but we could expand the idea for like when the old system worked you won a surrender then you get 2 weeks grace period. Maybe the same when you kill the person? Maybe extend the grace period? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/44 "2022-09-10T17:17:37Z")
Ironic as you are talking to the guy who thinks people should be “punished” when their words hurt his feelies… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/45 "2022-09-10T17:17:51Z")
> [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > wardecs dont work so we will be creative in our ways. Hang on, what? So being creative is: > [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > We can duel it out? Very creative there. Why do people with no substance try to play tough guy. It’s just a laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Travonus\_Trapoll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/travonus_trapoll/32/428501_2.png) [@Travonus\_Trapoll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Travonus_Trapoll)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/46 "2022-09-10T17:19:14Z")
Youre asking me to wardec you which is out of my control, however i am saying why not meet up and duel it out? Im willing to fight you if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/47 "2022-09-10T17:20:18Z")
I missed where he said that because he didnt even reply directly. Im happy with him ganking me or my corpies or allies if he seems em if wardecs are outside his ability. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/48 "2022-09-10T17:21:43Z")
Yeah sorry missed your reply. Like I say, happy to be ganked, but as a duel will result in your victory anyway, we could call it 1-0 to you and me punished for saying mean words to you if you want? VOV whatever suits best. ---
**Author:** ![Travonus\_Trapoll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/travonus_trapoll/32/428501_2.png) [@Travonus\_Trapoll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Travonus_Trapoll)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/49 "2022-09-10T17:22:42Z")
Sounds fair enough. But at least i offered a 1 to 1 fight. Gotta explore all options ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/50 "2022-09-10T17:23:22Z")
And I respect that, man. I do. Tbh I think your probably a good egg. ---
**Author:** ![Travonus\_Trapoll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/travonus_trapoll/32/428501_2.png) [@Travonus\_Trapoll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Travonus_Trapoll)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/51 "2022-09-10T17:23:44Z")
You too mate, i hope you do well as well. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/52 "2022-09-10T17:26:33Z")
Make a formal thing and maybe call it a Grudge Feud. gf 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/53 "2022-09-10T17:34:35Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > EVE has actually been dying since 2014 I _feel_ that this is true, Xuixien, having joined in 2013 and been witness to a slow but inexorable decline. Many causes have been posited; here’s a new one: If you know anything about Icelanders, you’ll know that they have quite a ‘dark’ sense of humour (self-described, I believe). I imagine this coloured early iterations of the game, so that behaviour which would not be tolerated in games originating from other parts of the world, was encouraged - nay - _celebrated_ by the game’s then-designers. As time has gone by, those originals have mellowed, or left, and their replacements have increasingly turned their eyes outward, to the wider world, in trying to establish a successful brand by appealing to representatives of a broader base. Icelandic faux-malice was replaced, in Nullsec, with the _frat-humour_ of organisations like the Goons. It wasn’t wildly different from the Icelandic type. But all humour has a ‘victim’, a subject, if you will. As the western world has grown more anxious and sensitive about victimhood generally, the explosion in those parts of the globe of mental ill-health, stress, and anxiety, has forced our noble Icelanders to re-evaluate their product in the light of significant trends. EVE is perhaps _changing_ rather than dying. Of course, to some, all change is loss. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/54 "2022-09-10T17:43:43Z")
Everything has seasons. They come and go. Each one brings changes. Either adapt to it, or cry on the forums to keep it all the same. If ganking gets nerfed, I’ll adapt and move on. Find other forms of gameplay. If it gets a boost, I’ll adapt and move on. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/55 "2022-09-10T17:46:18Z")
I should frame this, Ax’l; it has been my guide through EVE and through Life. Thanks for saying it so succinctly! ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/56 "2022-09-10T18:52:59Z")
I think we should get back to what OP has said. Before this devolves into an EVE is dying thread. **It would be great to kill someone in HS beyond ganking/wars.** Many have appeared to agree. ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/57 "2022-09-10T20:17:24Z")
Well, at least they had a _hypothetical_ duel, and established a clear winner through forum-posting. So, still a few rungs on the ladder higher than what Dracvlad has ever achieved. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/58 "2022-09-10T20:45:23Z")
Now now, the poor chap must be in tatters now “ole Liz 'as popped 'er clogs”, as they say. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/59 "2022-09-14T11:26:37Z")
> [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > it can be a little boring Rubbish, ganking is always fun. Our Princess has ganked 15859 times and it gets better every time. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/6/95608592e8f32566fdbbaedccb6dc5e0687c7d32.png) > [@Travonus\_Trapoll](#): > > What if we used the old school war machnic to wardec a player Constantly going after a player is considered griefing unless I say so. ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/60 "2022-11-10T19:13:38Z")
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