# Stop the ganking start the pvping **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 10, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371 "2022-09-10T06:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/82 "2022-11-11T12:17:39Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > all other locations such as Lowsec or Nulsec Structure locations will be open to fully non-consented Wardecs being allowed. War decs for low and null sec? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/4/a14ad9fa97de14a16b9198927d4c356768b06481.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/83 "2022-11-11T12:18:10Z")
You have a reminder set for this bookmark which will be sent at Jan 1, 2023 12:16 am / > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > War decs for low and null sec? Structures located in Faction Nulsec Space should also be safe space as we expand these last changes of Uprising we see in Highsec 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/84 "2022-11-11T15:21:23Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > There is no way to force people who don’t want to PvP into combat with other players. Since mass wardeccers and gankers both want to target players who don’t want to fight there’s never going to be a solution that comes from those people that’s actually feasible, because it will all be built around the false premise that you can force people into combat. What a load of utter rubbish. People _consent_ to wardec PvP the minute they put up a POS for a wardec eligible corp. Nobody forces them to put up that POS. There is not, and never has been, any ‘PvE Only’ part of Eve. Undocking, putting up stations, etc, has always come with PvP risk. If you want a solely PvE game then go play Homeworld single player on your own and stop trying to wreck the one good PvP MMO that is left ! ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/85 "2022-11-11T16:11:05Z")
Pay attention to the conversation. They are talking about bringing back old wardecs where you don’t need a structure in space. PvE is a big part of EVE and at various times throughout the games history there has been PvE available without being forced into PvP. I’m not going to leave just because you are telling me to go play something else. I want to play EVE, I want EVE to make changes. I don’t care if that makes you angry, get over it. EVE is not your game, it’s not up to you to decide who is worthy of playing it. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/86 "2022-11-11T16:19:57Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Pay attention to the conversation. You clearly aren’t…as I responded to a specific generic statement that you made, and no…you _don’t_ get away with throwing in generic statements and then afterwards claiming you were talking about a specific issue. I see what you did there. The usual dishonesty I have come to expect. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/87 "2022-11-11T16:21:47Z")
Look at my post. Top right shows it’s a reply. Click that, read the context. Calm down. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/88 "2022-11-11T16:24:29Z")
What part of ’ I was responding to a specific generic statement that **you** made ’ don’t you understand ? ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/89 "2022-11-11T16:30:23Z")
What if not everybody else is interested in EVE as a whole? What if some people just like the piracy for the challenged of it? Then I can say this with all the words: f4ck what you think other people should be doing, go worry about your own life and your miserable style of gameplay f4ck your notions about what is right or true, true or false, up and down f4ck your reasons why you are here, other people are here for other reasons f4ck what you think what is true pvp, nobody cares about you or about what you think Some people will come here and cut just the slice of pie they find more tasty EVE IS BORING IN GENERAL ANYWAY and YOU are boring too ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/90 "2022-11-11T16:30:54Z")
The part where you’re lying. You responded to my post talking about how people consent to wardecs by having structures. My response was to someone saying that old wardecs should be brought back and that additional limits should be put in place to stop people getting out of them. If all you’re going to do is get angry and ignore what people are actually saying, please go do something else. Noone here needs to be subjected to your anger management issues. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/91 "2022-11-11T16:31:05Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > They are talking about bringing back old wardecs where you don’t need a structure in space. Approved. Shooting Whinebabys, more amusing than structures. > [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > there has been PvE available without being forced into PvP. Unless you need a key to get in, not gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/92 "2022-11-11T16:33:22Z")
You say it’s good but history shows that it wasn’t. From the changes they’ve made it looks more and more like instanced PvE is the future. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/93 "2022-11-11T16:36:16Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > but history shows that it wasn’t. All that has changed is that your average whinebaby now dies by ganking rather than by war. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/94 "2022-11-11T16:39:54Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > The part where you’re lying. You responded to my post talking about how people consent to wardecs by having structures. Nonsense. I responded to a specific statement of yours that I even put in quotes. Do I need to take into account English not being your first language or something like that…as you are truly making a dog’s dinner of comprehending that. As for ‘anger’…the person getting all uppity is you…as your dishonest attempt to insert a generic ‘forcing PvP combat’ statement into what you claim is simply a statement about old style wardecs got caught out. You talk about there being a ‘conversation’. No…such dishonest arguing is the very antithesis of conversation. It is trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/95 "2022-11-11T16:40:18Z")
That and there’s been a huge surge in the number of people socially interacting as people no longer need to stash themselves away in NPC corps to avoid wars. It’s by no means perfect but the old war system was ridiculous. All it led to was people logging off or leaving corp when wars occurred and so for the majority of wars there was no content on either side. Mechanics which routinely create content voids are bad mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/96 "2022-11-11T16:41:31Z")
Keep arguing with yourself all you want, I have no intention of putting up with your outrage. Everyone else can go look at the context of my comment. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/97 "2022-11-11T16:46:28Z")
Nah…I’m off to actually play Eve, and bash some stations. You are irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/98 "2022-11-11T16:48:57Z")
Wars were tons of fun. One CEO enjoyed the experience of me popping him so much, gave me a command ship as part of the surrender. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/99 "2022-11-11T16:52:40Z")
In some cases, absolutely, just like now some wars are still fun. The problem is that most wars were not back when mass wardeccing existed. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/100 "2022-11-11T17:08:11Z")
Who said old wardecs are coming back? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ganking-start-the-pvping/376371/101 "2022-11-11T17:11:49Z")
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