# Stop the Ice Hog Accounts in High Sec PLZ **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [April 22, 2026, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355 "2026-04-22T06:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Duchess\_Amarrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duchess_amarrian/32/496946_2.png) [@Duchess\_Amarrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duchess_Amarrian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/1 "2026-04-22T06:55:00Z")
Devs, You did it for ores and why can’t you do it for ice in high sec. Please for the love of the game spread the ice to multiple high sec systems and not just 1 or 2 or 3 areas. Why ?? Because it will prevent an Orca account with 15 hulks eating it all for thy self. Allow others a fair chance at the loot yeah and not just account hoggers. Did someone say make mining great again ?? a dream. ---
**Author:** ![ThingsIdo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thingsido/32/492796_2.png) [@ThingsIdo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ThingsIdo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/2 "2026-04-22T11:35:24Z")
CCP doesn’t give a ■■■■, i dont even try for ice as CCP gives even less shits about that, than any other content. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/3 "2026-04-22T12:07:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Like every month: Too much Ice from afk/bots in HighSec. Too few Ore/Ice mining in Lowsec. Solutions are easy: > > - no static icebelts any more, afk-massmultiboxers and bots shouldn’t rely on the fact that they can log in, undock 20 hulks and just erase a belt convenient in half an hour, putting all the money/resources into one guy’s pockets. > > - split the ice amount from the static belts into randomly spawning ice anomalies (directly warpable) of smaller size and scannable ice sigs of larger size with some higher quality ice. Give active and motivated mining corps an edge over semi-afk massmultiboxers and bots. > > - do the same for lowsec with the high-quality ice/ore belts, plus adding “abandoned ORE mining outpost” sigs with high quality Ice/Ore in a deadspace pocket that can’t be hotdropped. This would encourage people to do mining-expeditions that are worth the endeavour if you can survive. The need to scan them first and the need to take a gate before warping in would allow the miners to defend themselves with paying attention, leaving a scout or suicidetackler behind to evac their fleet on one hand, but also allow hunters to prepare ambushes by pre-scanning the sites so they can sneak in with a cloaked ship without probes being shown and/or using recons to keep the Dscan empty. Interesting interaction for both sites is possible. I’ve tried to get their attention in almost every MER in 2024, didn’t even get a reply. So good luck. They don’t seem to care that Ice is basically being afk mined or botmined all day long in HS. ---
**Author:** ![Asveron\_Durr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asveron_durr/32/473468_2.png) [@Asveron\_Durr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asveron_Durr)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/4 "2026-04-22T14:36:04Z")
if you wqnt ice that bad…join a corp that lives there locally and profit. and > [@Syzygium](#): > > They don’t seem to care that Ice is basically being afk mined or botmined all day long in HS. you are really dumb if you believe that nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/5 "2026-04-22T19:44:32Z")
Gank them ---
**Author:** ![ThingsIdo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thingsido/32/492796_2.png) [@ThingsIdo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ThingsIdo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2026, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/6 "2026-04-23T11:26:25Z")
■■■■ that its easier to quit eve, its become a ■■■■ game because of character farming losers ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/7 "2026-05-03T21:07:06Z")
Get a Stabber. Fit it to be really fast. Fly to the ice field with 15 Orcas. Bump each Orca off grid over and over and over. Make them pay you 75 million per Orca to stop. Then once they have all paid, do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/8 "2026-05-03T21:12:54Z")
> [@Asveron\_Durr](#): > > you are really dumb if you believe that nonsense. No it’s true. AFK mining is legal. CCP does not care that it’s being AFK mined. Why would they? It’s legal. They may care about botting- unless it’s done in one of their beloved null-sec alliances. But AFK mining? They really don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Asveron\_Durr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asveron_durr/32/473468_2.png) [@Asveron\_Durr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asveron_Durr)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/9 "2026-05-04T02:35:29Z")
no, my reply to the other guy has to do with believing ice is afk mined…when its being mined by ppl that want teh ice gone as fast possible most of the time…and if ppl dont want to be in their corps to get it gone…then multiboxers go in and ripp it apart…which is what the OP is complaining about…hs is not slow farmed by bots and afkr’s at all. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Christened](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_christened/32/439994_2.png) [@Nico\_Christened](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Christened)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/10 "2026-05-15T06:28:49Z")
Yea, that’s exactly right. The OP should instead be asking for faster spawn times for fresh belts and/or for larger belt spawns when they do appear. I don’t see ‘bots’ or many afk either, but multi-boxers though? Oh yah. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/11 "2026-05-15T11:45:31Z")
For me, the solution in retrospect would be - as stupid as it sounds - to make the ice belts static again with infinite sized ice roids as it was before. It will have several benefits: For some people it will then become boring and they will stop doing it or limit the time they do it, because you just fall asleep or start watching a movie. Ice prices drop again and people will search for better opportunities. Also it is more visible and better analyzable if someone is botting. Gankers have predictable prey all around the clock. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/12 "2026-05-15T12:14:57Z")
Yeah that would make sense, but the loudest criers against that are the nullbear cave dwellers who can’t sleep at night if they think High Sec players actually have something to enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/13 "2026-05-15T12:28:07Z")
> [@Power\_Armor](#): > > as stupid as it sounds If something sounds stupid, it probably is. Well, your _solution_ might work, if CCP would add a “hull polarization field” to those Ice belts, basically reducing all ship resistances to 0%, like combat ships using polarized guns. Legit miners have absolutely no problem, you can always warp out in time if a ganksquad enters the local. Afk miners and botters would be blown up by the dozens each day. Win-Win-Win for everyone. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/14 "2026-05-15T13:10:44Z")
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/15 "2026-05-15T13:53:07Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Well, your _solution_ might work, if CCP would add a “hull polarization field” to those Ice belts, basically reducing all ship resistances to 0%, like combat ships using polarized guns. > > Legit miners have absolutely no problem, you can always warp out in time if a ganksquad enters the local. Afk miners and botters would be blown up by the dozens each day. > > Win-Win-Win for everyone. 🙂 They couldn’t do that since they’d have to up the profits in high sec if they upped the risk factor that much. High Sec ice belts would have to be way more profitable than anything in Null since it’d now be way more dangerous than null sec. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/16 "2026-05-15T14:12:35Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > They couldn’t do that since they’d have to up the profits in high sec if they upped the risk factor that much. High Sec ice belts would have to be way more profitable than anything in Null since it’d now be way more dangerous than null sec. 😆 It would only be risky for afk players and botters, and for them, nobody needs to care. So no, no adjustments needed. But as said before, best solution is to completely remove those big ice belts and split the amount into random anomalies and signatures, but increase reprocessing value quite a bit. Totally unviable for someone with his own massmultiboxfleet, a fortune for small and active mining corps actively looking and scanning for deposits and able to move around their fleet of small mining ships fast and efficient. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/17 "2026-05-15T14:22:30Z")
Same applies to null sec. Only dangerous to afk players. No one who is active ever gets blown up 🙂 It’s not like Orcas have a wait time of up to 3 minutes before they can move after all! No Orca pilot would mind having his resistances dropped to zero. Increase ice mining to 200m per hour. Win win for everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/18 "2026-05-15T14:31:04Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Same applies to null sec. Only dangerous to afk players. No one who is active ever gets blown up Comparing HS to Nullsec is pretty stupid, because in HS lazy people rely on a magic CONCORD force to scare off attackers while in NS the people are able to protect their ratters and miners with a _player driven_ system of security. Or not, both okay. Thats why the rewards are higher, not because more or less people are dying there. You are _self responsible_ to a very large degree and that is rewarded. > [@Glenduil](#): > > It’s not like Orcas have a wait time of up to 3 minutes before they can move after all! No Orca pilot would mind having his resistances dropped to zero. Use the Industrial Core only if you are able to defend your ship. By force. If you can’t, make sure to get out of the belt before Gankers can tackle you. Simple concept. > [@Glenduil](#): > > Increase ice mining to 200m per hour. Or just remove it. Leave HS if you want to make 200m per hour, then provide the security nessessary to do that on your own. Anything done behind a magic CONCORD shield should just pay peanuts. -\_- ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/19 "2026-05-15T14:39:00Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Use the Industrial Core only if you are able to defend your ship. By force. If you can’t, make sure to get out of the belt before Gankers can tackle you. Simple concept. Defend from suicide ships that will die to Concord anyway? Nope. Can’t attack the suicide ships until after they have attacked and with zero resistances, no target will survive the Alpha damage. So we’ll need massive profits for ship replacement. And even without the core, Orcas take 30 seconds to align. Can’t align before-hand since you have to maintain 2,500 meters to transfer cargo from the Hulk to the Orca. So that leaves the Skiffs which have the largest ore holds, but they will also lose tank to the polarization which means that they simply have slower mining (though they do get an ice yield buff) and no tank. So yeah.. 200m/hour. > [@Syzygium](#): > > Or just remove it. Leave HS if you want to make 200m per hour, then provide the security nessessary to do that on your own. Anything done behind a magic CONCORD shield should just pay peanuts. -\_- Why? Null sec is awful. It’s a very unfun place to play that only rewards multi-boxers. You can make trillions if you log on 10 accounts, quit your job, and exist in someone’s basement so you can play forever. It’s hilarious that these are the people complaining about High Sec people making too much money. I’m not going to play in Null because losing my freedom isn’t worth the crap profits I make with a single character. How much sleep do you actually lose worrying about high sec profits? Null sec profits! Bah. Single players don’t make ■■■■ because CCP balanced it out for the multi-boxers. I’ve got better things to do with my time than PLEX 10 accounts each month. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355/20 "2026-05-15T14:47:25Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > And even without the core, Orcas take 30 seconds to align. Can’t align before-hand since you have to maintain 2,500 meters to transfer cargo from the Hulk to the Orca. 😄 looks like you are just bad at the game ^^ > [@Glenduil](#): > > How much sleep do you actually lose worrying about high sec profits? Zero, I just like debating. Mostly because HS people suffer the same disadvantage as their ingame fits. They simply have no point. 🤣 ![point](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/a/7/6a79a9193e5cb6718eebd200efcc83bc7275c20d.png) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-ice-hog-accounts-in-high-sec-plz/510355.md?page=2)