# Stop the idiotic lowsec instalocking camps **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469 "2018-12-25T21:23:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ItsmeHcK1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/itsmehck1/32/300223_2.png) [@ItsmeHcK1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ItsmeHcK1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/1 "2018-12-25T21:23:19Z")
You’d think this is a whining post about pirates ruining my day… it is not! In fact, I am the pirate ruining said day. Well, I was. I can’t leave the station anymore, due to NPC gatecamps. I’m not even joking. Look at this glorious killboard: [https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000084/](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000084/) Some information for those not in the know: Amarr and Minmatar ‘navy’ fleets are currently camping gates all over lowsec. These guys instapoint and instagank, faster than even Concord does. As you can see from the killboard, even frigates get tackled loads of times. Basically, if there’s a gatecamp anywhere, that gate is permanently off limits. They happen to camp pipes though… so I can’t even get from Amamake to Kamela. CCP… What the ■■■■ is this? I’m literally forced to cyno EVERYWHERE now. Are you actively trying to kill lowsec? ---
**Author:** ![Khan\_Wrenth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_wrenth/32/14130_2.png) [@Khan\_Wrenth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Wrenth)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/2 "2018-12-25T21:49:23Z")
> [@ItsmeHcK1](#): > > Are you actively trying to kill lowsec? Sounds like they’re actively trying to kill you. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/3 "2018-12-25T22:02:03Z")
I believe that they are part of the ongoing war between Amarr and Minmatar, so if you are in FW with either of those Navies you’ll be fair game for the opposing faction, like you normally would. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/4 "2018-12-25T22:04:04Z")
Sounds like NPCs are doing to the campers what the campers were doing to the players. Sounds like fair play to me. ---
**Author:** ![ItsmeHcK1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/itsmehck1/32/300223_2.png) [@ItsmeHcK1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ItsmeHcK1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/5 "2018-12-25T22:07:20Z")
@ISD Sakimura: We are not. I’ve never been in FW either. ---
**Author:** ![Shpuntik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shpuntik/32/420582_2.png) [@Shpuntik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shpuntik)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/6 "2018-12-25T22:07:42Z")
yes that is understandable for the roleplaying aspect but when you do not role play or are not in FW and they still attack you even with decent standings towards those factions it is a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/7 "2018-12-25T22:17:36Z")
> [@ItsmeHcK1](#): > > You’d think this is a whining post about pirates ruining my day… it is not! In fact, I am the pirate ruining said day. Well, I was. I can’t leave the station anymore, due to NPC gatecamps. I’m not even joking. Look at this glorious killboard: [https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000084/](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000084/) > Some information for those not in the know: Amarr and Minmatar ‘navy’ fleets are currently camping gates all over lowsec. These guys instapoint and instagank, faster than even Concord does. As you can see from the killboard, even frigates get tackled loads of times. Basically, if there’s a gatecamp anywhere, that gate is permanently off limits. They happen to camp pipes though… so I can’t even get from Amamake to Kamela. > CCP… What the ■■■■ is this? I’m literally forced to cyno EVERYWHERE now. Are you actively trying to kill lowsec? Hate to say it, but it actually is a whining post. HTFU! ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/8 "2018-12-25T22:31:40Z")
I haven’t seen this yet, but as a matter of principle, NPCs should just be part of the scenery and never interfere with actual EVE gameplay. Trying to force people to participate in PVE content is ■■■■■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/9 "2018-12-25T22:39:16Z")
> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#): > > NPCs should just be part of the scenery and never interfere with actual EVE gameplay. Mind reposting that over [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-stop-those-annoying-npc-mining-fleets/129352) Should be able to get a good threadnaught out of this. ---
**Author:** ![Radical\_Posture](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radical_posture/32/276404_2.png) [@Radical\_Posture](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Radical_Posture)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/11 "2018-12-25T23:10:33Z")
Why are Bots ok as long as its CCP that owns them? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/12 "2018-12-25T23:35:38Z")
> [@techzer0](#): > > Sounds like NPCs are doing to the campers what the campers were doing to the players. > Sounds like fair play to me. If npc’s were just doing it to other npc’s, then fine. Players are using player made tools and tactics against other players. They are using human hours rather than botting. As if this needs to be explained to you… Edit- oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/13 "2018-12-26T00:12:04Z")
> [@Radical\_Posture](#): > > Why are Bots ok as long as its CCP that owns them? That’s a pretty retarded question. What does a bot do for CCP? Does it give them an unfair advantage? Do they use them to flood the markets with cheap minerals? Print isk for stuff and things? I mean, I bet they might use it for RM… nope they don’t even RMT with them. Which I do think would be hilarious as ■■■■… but my amusement would be a poor reason. Now… what does a bot do for a player? Next question, why do you call it a bot and not an NPC? ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capn_jt_kirk/32/32384_2.png) [@Capn\_JT\_Kirk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capn_JT_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/14 "2018-12-26T00:40:00Z")
The npcs pod kill. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/15 "2018-12-26T01:16:38Z")
Grow a pair and get a group of buds together to deal with them 😉 ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/16 "2018-12-26T01:38:31Z")
Wow that makes so much sense… it’s like communist arguments… It’s valid for the others but not for themselves ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/17 "2018-12-26T01:43:05Z")
Stop trying to force us to band together some of us like solo play. Avoiding/fighting player gate camps is fun. NPCs wtf? What is even the meaning of this? What do you get for the effort of destroying them 1x tritanium? Hey man just got home from work let’s go down to low and look for some fights! Ah there’s an npc camp will take a while to assemble something to take it on. Meh I don’t have much time I’d rather pvp I’ll go play X. Really hammering the coffin on low. Should’ve had these things spawning on null anomalies or fw missions where bots prevail not low gates where the last few fun people in eve hang around. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/18 "2018-12-26T02:09:03Z")
> [@CCP\_Falcon](#): > > Grow a pair and get a group of buds together to deal with them Baha. Wish I could like this twice. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/19 "2018-12-26T02:10:24Z")
> [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](#): > > solo play > > Massively Multiplayer Online Game Get ■■■■■■ if you don’t like existing solo play. You CAN play solo. It’s not going to be easy because they didn’t make a single player game. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/20 "2018-12-26T02:25:59Z")
Is this a new feature or something? ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Austin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_austin/32/321578_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Austin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Austin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/21 "2018-12-26T02:53:15Z")
I believe they released something about in the last Release notes [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469.md?page=2)