# Stop the idiotic lowsec instalocking camps **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469 "2018-12-25T21:23:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yozo_ellec0n/32/348583_2.png) [@Yozo\_Ellec0n](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yozo_Ellec0n)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/185 "2018-12-30T08:28:26Z")
Players do all the time with smartbombs. Would you want CCP to add smartbombing NPCs as well? ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/186 "2018-12-30T10:16:40Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > the npc shouldn’t be catching sub-2 second warping frigs and even shuttles … FACTION STANDING. You fight an empire and they got angry. There are many solutions, enjoy the game. Humans can find multiple solutions but it is mostly botters that come and complain about how their bots fly right into the trap. Stop botting. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/187 "2018-12-30T17:27:06Z")
What content? (honest question) You’re only happy about these becuase you are butthurt about pvp. Not because they provide content. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/188 "2018-12-30T18:58:43Z")
What is really sad is that that is the only reason it could have been put in the game. Everything we have seen, ECM targeting, this, wardec are all “butthurt designs” that don’t accomplish anything but make butt hurt people feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/190 "2018-12-30T19:11:03Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > You live in a pretty sad world if that’s the only reason you can come up with for the changes we’re seeing. > > Do you honestly think that Fluffy Penguin is actively trying to make your life miserable? That they are targeting you because they don’t want you to have fun? That they’re having secret meetings in smoke filled rooms with carebears to actively destroy a franchise? > > You’re thinking like a 10 year old when you should be thinking like a company that needs to recoup the hundreds of millions of dollars it just spent. Stop trying to make it personal. The design sucks and has no purpose whatsoever then to make people who have been killed feel better, which is one of the most idiotic reasons ever to make a change to a game. It doesn’t stop botting at all. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/191 "2018-12-30T19:17:29Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > What bots do with it, or even the greater population does with it, isn’t really important. FW has an unambiguous function. If its failing at that function, then maybe people should ask for a re-think (which they are constantly, if they haven’t left fw altogether). Or if it’s function has changed, let people know that it has and watch that go down like a lead balloon. The super ironic thing is that what ails FW is the PVE missions; take out the missions and problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/193 "2018-12-30T21:21:56Z")
You know what else is fked, just shows how little they play, it should have been Cal/Gal for reasons obvious to anyone who plays. Way to pick on the little guys CCP 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Messir\_Astaroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/messir_astaroth/32/448074_2.png) [@Messir\_Astaroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Messir_Astaroth)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/194 "2018-12-30T22:15:54Z")
I mean, I wouldnt mind those gate camps, but just make them not so ultimately OP. Its even impossible to kill those rats, cuz they respawn in 2 sec after their death. Despite the fact that they can die techcnically, they are still more cheaty and disturbing for us than CONCORD is for those unfortunate criminals that jump into HS. This isn’t balance, isn’t EVE. It is just a cheaty ■■■■. Remove it plz. Or make it realistic and avoidable. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker4\_theDead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/speaker4_thedead/32/108377_2.png) [@Speaker4\_theDead](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Speaker4_theDead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/195 "2018-12-30T22:50:04Z")
Except that FW, and the game in general is suffering from lack of players, so they ae doing the only thing they can do…replace players with npc’s ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/196 "2018-12-30T22:51:46Z")
- Losing players to lack of player driven content. - Fix it with more non-player content. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/197 "2018-12-30T22:52:59Z")
I really don’t think this was in response to botters…i really hope this wasn’t in response to botters… ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/198 "2018-12-30T23:08:47Z")
I think someone was testing their lock speed lol. > **[Claw | Astraeos Khan | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/74235042/)** > > Astraeos Khan (Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.) lost their Claw in Kourmonen (The Bleak Lands) Total Value: 23,079,333.52 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/199 "2018-12-30T23:24:48Z")
It’s not. Its ongoing world events. Bother reading the in game news. Just like incursions it’s because stuff is happening in game. In this case big tensions between Amarr and Minmatar which could lead to changes in the political landscape. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/200 "2018-12-30T23:36:04Z")
That means nothing mate. It’s just fluff. It’s the equivalent of implementing an idea because someone said ‘wouldnt it be cool if…’ and being inconsiderate of how it affects the actual game. Incursions have a purpose, rewards, objectives. They ARE the feature, and then the fluff was built around it. These apparently don’t. So how are they the same? ---
**Author:** ![Buenzli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buenzli/32/350348_2.png) [@Buenzli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buenzli)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/201 "2018-12-31T00:00:13Z")
This does not worry me one bit. What worries me more is the glorious CCP screw ups these days. Warp to 0 and Jump for instance does not result in Jumping at all (like 1 out of 10 times). Warp to 0 to a JG, well, it warped my Hauler to 8km distance from it and it just stood there. “Q” - Approach not always working, especially when you most need it for pvp. Crap got worse basically. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/202 "2018-12-31T05:08:39Z")
If you were in null and initiated warp when there was a bubble on the gate and the bubble vanished before you landed, you would still land where the edge of the bubble was when you initiated warp. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/203 "2018-12-31T16:45:35Z")
5 yard penalty for assuming butthurt. Why are you so defensive about your playstyle? Guilt? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/204 "2018-12-31T16:51:29Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > 5 yard penalty for assuming butthurt. > Why are you so defensive about your playstyle? Guilt? Welcome to being ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/205 "2018-12-31T16:53:41Z")
Can’t tell me what content they provide then huh? Why are you avoiding my questions? My playstyle regarding these npc’s is slipping by in my cloaky mission ship. Pvp wise, i just don’t go there. Awesome content 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/206 "2018-12-31T18:50:31Z")
> [@Messir\_Astaroth](#): > > hey are still more cheaty and disturbing for us than CONCORD is for those unfortunate criminals that jump into HS. Please explain. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469.md?page=11)