# Stop the idiotic lowsec instalocking camps **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469 "2018-12-25T21:23:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/83 "2018-12-26T18:49:19Z")
What a mess in low sec. ANd just a few years back everything was so nice there, people running small gangs, kiling stray cruisers. Now you have to get titan to gank overwhelming NPC forces. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/84 "2018-12-26T18:49:22Z")
The Angel ones show red icons and shoot my corp mates all the time because they have low Angel standing. Because I never shot Angel rats and did missions vs Gallente and Minmatar I have high Angel standing but terrible Gallente/Minmatar standing. As a result those rats show grey icons instead of red and do not shoot me. The normal Angel rats still show red and shoot but the powerful ones that come to the station, belt mine, and the gates do not shoot. I imagine that the same might be true for the faction rats that are being discussed. If you have high Amarr standing/low Minmatar, then the Minmatar ones will probably show red icons and shoot you or vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Lictas\_Alice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lictas_alice/32/113127_2.png) [@Lictas\_Alice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lictas_Alice)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/85 "2018-12-26T19:00:21Z")
Stop being in FW to live in LS. I think thats ccp logic too ---
**Author:** ![Suzie\_Andrews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suzie_andrews/32/150789_2.png) [@Suzie\_Andrews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suzie_Andrews)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/86 "2018-12-26T20:25:31Z")
just stop having bad standings lol ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/87 "2018-12-26T20:28:26Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Yes, roam fw space for pvp. But here’s more pve, that doesn’t do anything for the players but get in the way… > [@CCP\_Falcon](#): > > Grow a pair and get a group of buds together to deal with them 😉 lol > **[Daichi Yamato | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/815492084/)** > > Daichi Yamato: 56 ships destroyed and 23 ships lost. You’re most recent low sec loss or kill was in 2012. Yes…tell me more about how this matters to you. ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Kalfren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_kalfren/32/110261_2.png) [@Eric\_Kalfren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Kalfren)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/88 "2018-12-26T20:59:38Z")
Your game is in a lot of trouble. I know this Aeschee local and I’m familiar with those old hunting trails and I can’t believe all the Citadels. You got a real issue - his buds have probably dumped this game a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/89 "2018-12-26T22:26:48Z")
Killboard epeen! 🤣 Link my lossboard as many times as you want. It doesn’t make you look butthurt at all. It matters because it doesn’t make sense to have npc’s blocking players from systems, and blocking faction warfare. And no one even understands what they are for. They aren’t worth attacking. They are just getting in the way. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/90 "2018-12-26T22:58:48Z")
They talked about it in the last “The Scope” video. Quite funny to see such elements implemented ! But I must admit… I feel very bad for [that poor guy](https://zkillboard.com/kill/74225746/). ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/91 "2018-12-26T23:35:21Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > They are just getting in the way. lol > [@CCP\_Falcon](#): > > Grow a pair and get a group of buds together to deal with them 😉 I am definitely not butthurt putting you on blast. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/92 "2018-12-27T00:35:32Z")
Don’t have bad standings with neither of them? It’s funny to see these self proclaimed Minmatar militia tough guys getting wrecked by no other than NPCs. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/93 "2018-12-27T01:31:01Z")
Why should people wanting to pvp have to go kill rats? LOL so retarded and out of touch 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/94 "2018-12-27T01:56:21Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Why should people wanting to pvp have to go kill rats? Same reason people who don’t want to PVP have to get wardecced or ganked. Or to simplify. Because that’s how it is. Deal with it or find another game. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/95 "2018-12-27T02:18:05Z")
You’re such a brainlet If you dont understand how thats different in a sandbox pvp game, then I dont know what to tell you ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/96 "2018-12-27T16:14:56Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Do you actually check on your PC once in a while because the forum and FW botting is getting out of hand. So remove the missions, this accomplished nothing. “Any crappy change” is not justified. This is just another hack to go with all the other low skill hacks. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/97 "2018-12-27T16:21:08Z")
Such amount of Alpha bots is effect of decision by CCP to introduce Alpha mechanics to the game. All crappy change even if justified is just a crappy change. CCP could have made a few promotions for new players like 1 month of gameplay ocasionally once a year or two times. But CCP went full Alpha. That even did not help them financially. And the game is full of RMT bots and there are 2, or maybe even 1 guy in security, banning the bad guys I assume. Thousands of them bots. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/98 "2018-12-27T17:42:27Z")
I used to think the devs were just fail. But this kind of thing makes me think they are intentionally sabotaging the game. Maybe the stock option deal sucked in the sale, I don’t know, but the string of really bad design choices can’t possibly be lack of skill. No one is that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/99 "2018-12-27T20:12:17Z")
> [@Lictas\_Alice](#): > > they could of Could **HAVE** FFS! ---
**Author:** ![Aetrid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetrid/32/77858_2.png) [@Aetrid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetrid)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/100 "2018-12-27T20:34:05Z")
nothing worse than bad grammer ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/101 "2018-12-27T20:37:43Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > > [@Lictas\_Alice](#): > > > > they could of > > Could **HAVE** FFS! Could have **COMMA** FFS, FFS! ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469/102 "2018-12-27T20:47:42Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > > [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > > > > [@Lictas\_Alice](#): > > > > > > they could of > > > > Could **HAVE** FFS! > > Could have **APOSTROPHE** FFS, FFS! apostrophe or comma? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-the-idiotic-lowsec-instalocking-camps/129469.md?page=6)