# Stop thinking of ISK as an end and you will start enjoying this game **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 23, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074 "2017-12-23T17:11:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/21 "2017-12-26T21:26:05Z")
> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#): > > amazon dot com: working hard to supply your every need. Refrigerators that order delivery of low-stock items, where if you ran out of said item, you might delay a purchase or discover something new, next time you went out into the world. Yeah, that is not a very bright future ahead. People are so short-sighted and only see the immediate beneficial gain without spending a single thought on where their laziness will lead to in the future. Personally I wouldn’t give a damn if the stupid people ruin their own future society with their actions if I wouldn’t have to live in that society as well… ---
**Author:** ![Sebs\_Pride](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebs_pride/32/181192_2.png) [@Sebs\_Pride](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebs_Pride)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/22 "2017-12-26T21:27:55Z")
Actually just following what you want to do brings joy. I remember joining a merc corop and hating it more than any amount of mining the game could throw at me, not being able to undock ever unless with a fc, meaning if he wasnt online I couldnt play. ---
**Author:** ![Comander\_Drix\_Utama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/comander_drix_utama/32/102001_2.png) [@Comander\_Drix\_Utama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Comander_Drix_Utama)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/23 "2018-01-04T10:41:10Z")
Money IRL are a good thing but some ppl like me have work injuries and loves Eve for what is theres more to eve then making isk theres also the Social part witch i enjoy alot due to pysical and mental illness i got… every playler in eve playes the game like thay want to thats the amasing thing about eve ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/24 "2018-01-04T12:24:49Z")
The irony here, is the isk rich dont pay for the game. They just buy someone elses PLEX. (Inb4 “they are paying”. No, they arent. Someone else is paying CCP.) * * * Its never been conclusively clear what demographics actually introduces PLEX into the game by buying it from CCP. Stands to reason though, that its largely those that dont have isk ingame. Also stands to reason, in large part, that they will have first bought a sub from CCP, before further investing in a PLEX to sell ingame. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/25 "2018-01-04T13:59:33Z")
I try to earn about 100m a day, which takes me about 30 minutes. As long as you don’t lose too much, then this will keep you comfortably isk-coverred for whatever you’re doing in pvp, just don’t go whelp caps on a whim. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/26 "2018-01-04T14:01:50Z")
> [@Trevor\_Dalech](#): > > I try to earn about 100m a day, which takes me about 30 minutes. How are you earning 100mil for ~30mins/day? ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/27 "2018-01-04T14:39:23Z")
“D: Buy low, sell high, go ratting, hauling, etc. (opportunity to side-track to ganking,botting,grrgoons etc.)” –Helpful Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_peruvian-longhair_alpaca/32/46068_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Peruvian-Longhair_Alpaca)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/28 "2018-01-04T16:46:40Z")
Well said, OP! You’ll find that this is one of the main messages of the New Order of Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/29 "2018-01-04T19:01:16Z")
Plenty of options – For example, C3 wormhole sites drop about 40-50m and take 10-15min to clear in a rattlesnake. Low sec DEDs (once you find them) can be very quick to clear and drop 50-500m. Null sec ratting, high sec incursions, lvl 4 missionning, all get about 200m/hr I think (not too experienced with those, so can’t state precise numbers) For siginificantly higher ISK/hr, you can look at carrier ratting in null, C5/C6 WH farming, lvl 5 missions in low sec, etc… Those do require a lot of SP, a few bil ISK initial investment, and a corp which supports it usually. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stop-thinking-of-isk-as-an-end-and-you-will-start-enjoying-this-game/47074/30 "2018-04-04T19:01:19Z")
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