# Stormbringer Abyss cant handle Cheating mechanic **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** abyss\ **Created:** [September 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-abyss-cant-handle-cheating-mechanic/422339 "2023-09-30T14:53:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 31
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-abyss-cant-handle-cheating-mechanic/422339/31 "2023-09-30T20:10:23Z")
I was wanting to wait it out before i replied. Not all abyssals were made to be defeated easily. I recall there was a t6 abyssal somebody was screaming it was impossible with certain ships and a csm replied that ccp intended it. > [@Stormbringer in abyss electrical T5 and T6 is mathematically impossible to survive](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-in-abyss-electrical-t5-and-t6-is-mathematically-impossible-to-survive/358721): > > Hi After a ticket the GM suggested posting here too to share my find-concern and perhaps start a discussion. TLDL Stormbringer in electrical T5 and T6 has room combinations that are mathematically impossible to complete in 20 minutes. Leaving absolutely no player agency to the final outcome of certain loss of the whole setup. Except to not participate. And in a game setting I feel that kind of game design is a bit iffy. Recently I decided to switch things up in my EVE activities and delved in… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-abyss-cant-handle-cheating-mechanic/422339)._