# Stormbringer in abyss electrical T5 and T6 is mathematically impossible to survive

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**Created:** [April 20, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-in-abyss-electrical-t5-and-t6-is-mathematically-impossible-to-survive/358721 "2022-04-20T20:11:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stormbringer-in-abyss-electrical-t5-and-t6-is-mathematically-impossible-to-survive/358721/7 "2022-04-20T22:19:12Z")

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This thread reminded me that there was a [fairly recent thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mechanic-or-gameplay-that-is-considered-unfair-gaming/342568) on this exact topic, and the bullet points I took away from that conversation was:

- abyssal runs are never designed to be guaranteed beatable (for any ship/fit plus room combo)
- each room “just is” and it’s up to players to figure out how to beat the room
- abyssals still follow the risk/reward tradeoff, particularly at higher tiers, which yes means ship losses happen – and since it can’t be eliminated, it’s up to the player to minimize them to maintain profitability

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