# Stream sniping in eve **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 29, 2022, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739 "2022-09-29T07:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/21 "2022-09-29T12:53:20Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Okay whatever, but can you explain this to me? Who is real ganker and who isn’t? > > I am asking because I would like to know where I stand myself I don’t know that any of us can every truly know if we are real or not. Best we can do is keep plugging on and hope we aren’t some fever dream. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/22 "2022-09-29T12:54:22Z")
Im definately not real ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/23 "2022-09-29T12:54:40Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If HateLess stops streaming it will be a loss for eve I would have agreed with you if he had taught proper counterplay and used his platform to solve in-game problems with in-game mechanics, play style adjustments, and teaching his audience how to manage expectations with the game as it stands today, not as anyone wishes it were. Instead he goes for the clickbait “billions of ISK”, parades outside of game to try to get playstyles banned, goes onto talk shows to rant, and generally spends a lot of out-of-game energy on out-of-game tactics to try to come out on top. He’s no different than that Eve Tutorial guy in this regard: using outside platforms to 💩 on other players playing the game with the in-game mechanics as provided today. It used to be you’d dox other Eve players and place fake bomb threats at their workplace or ask your alliance to DDoS their work phones, but since CCP is against this out of game behavior now it is instead evolving in to using your “Content Creator” shield to attack the people and playstyles that go against you, it seems. And that is not worthy of respect, idolation, nor tolerating in the Eve Community. ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/24 "2022-09-29T15:17:28Z")
Zoomer problems are not EVE problems. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/25 "2022-09-29T16:00:58Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > I would have agreed with you if he had taught proper counterplay and used his platform to solve in-game He has spent this time talking about avoiding gankers and showing how to survive a gank. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/26 "2022-09-29T16:03:18Z")
Sure, but it is hard to reconcile with the fact his current message completely undermines that. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadow_cyrilus/32/260620_2.png) [@Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadow_Cyrilus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/27 "2022-09-29T16:04:00Z")
How exactly is a dude who defames hundreds, if not thousands of players, a loss to the community? How exactly is a dude who has other players watch him make billions of isk without ever teaching them game mechanics useful? How is someone who teaches newbros and veteran carebears alike that risk-free isk-making is the norm across New Eden a positive influence? How is a person who labels anything not done in the pursuit of isk as “griefing” a “plus” to the community? How exactly is a dude who attempts to blackmail CCP into changing THEIR game to fit his toddler-like mindset beneficial to the community? How exactly is someone who repeatedly and openly falsely reports other players a good samaritan? How is a dude who refuses to engage in civil debate and would rather ban all and any disagreement in what can only be described as an echo chamber beneficial? P.S — you do realize that locator agents are a thing? One doesn’t need to stream-snipe, and you have provided no proof to that effect. ---
**Author:** ![Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadow_cyrilus/32/260620_2.png) [@Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadow_Cyrilus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/28 "2022-09-29T16:06:13Z")
Actions speak louder that words, especially when punctuated by cries. He never actually engaged in counter play, instead preferring to blackmail CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/29 "2022-09-29T16:09:48Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > am asking because I would like to know where I stand myself I don’t really know much about you but you don’t need me to tell you how to play a computer game and not be a Petty minded vindictive person and it’s the minority or bad apple that can spoil it for the masses. Keep ganking if that’s your thing but I’ve seen to meant streamers quit because of these bad apples and people that follow and think it’s cool ---
**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/30 "2022-09-29T16:10:32Z")
Wasn’t he supposedly filling a class action lawsuit against CCP over bullying and griefing after this? I recall seeing several rants in game that were beyond amusing by the loyal follower base. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/31 "2022-09-29T16:10:57Z")
He has I was at one incident, the gank failed that was all above bored and good game play By both sides ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/32 "2022-09-29T16:15:19Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > wonder if this thread will deliver… and if it will end up being locked (and how soon if it will). 🤔 31 post and counting, you see people can be nice and chat in a civil way ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/33 "2022-09-29T16:58:43Z")
Maybe I am missing something…but why would a stream about Eve _not_ contain just the sort of activity that goes on in Eve ? ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/34 "2022-09-29T17:01:14Z")
The mafia has been viewing this whole mess of anti gankers vs gankers and anything and everything in-between. This thread just broke my will to not reply to whatever this mess is. As a streamer in ANY game the streamer accepts this as an **occupational risk**. I really don’t see the merit of this thread. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > In the past we actively took part in anti-snipe activity, on occasion helping hateless protect against gankers why he run a stream with a large group of players, worked out very well and the gank failed. Awesome! This is what CCP wants! > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If HateLess stops streaming it will be a loss for eve as a whole and leaves, the same can’t be said for the perpetrators. I don’t know this guy but he needs to learn the occupational risks of being a streamer. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Long live the resistance ??? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/a/28aa8b8ef11c41868103bf444d2b9ffc5a6b5983.gif) I am not scared in anyway. 🍷 🍷 💰 ---
**Author:** ![Dexomus\_Viliana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dexomus_viliana/32/432560_2.png) [@Dexomus\_Viliana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dexomus_Viliana)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/35 "2022-09-29T17:50:53Z")
I dont really understand why Aiko and the rest of the group have been targeted so hard. If you actually took the time to read the MOTD you will read that the tone is RP/Satirical in nature, although considering the carry on recently alot of people seem to have lost their sense of humour for some reason. In terms of stream sniping, I am a streamer (scottishdex), admittedly not a very important one, but the key aspect is its well know that you have to take the time to make yourself less of a target, wether it be taking measures to hide your location or doing abysals in a less known/difficult location to find. Or fitting a much less expensive ship. I cant really wrap my head around why these facts are so hard to grasp? There are multiple streamers who have actively created ways to hide their location, I believe my dear friend erschlag has designed something where instead of blurring entire sections of your stream you can just blur specific text. None of them are entirely bullet proof but it would require actual effort to locate you through locator agents or whatever. More importantly if all of the above fail, you must be prepared to accept the ganking and move on. This whole greiving/complaining instead of making moves to counter like you should is frankly pathetic and I have no respect for 90% of the individuals not prepared to accept losses in this fashion. Streamsniping/ganking is part of eve online, if you arent prepared to accept that you should go and play farming sim or WOW. Dex ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/36 "2022-09-29T19:12:55Z")
> [@Dexomus\_Viliana](#): > > Streamsniping You don’t even need to “stream snipe” Hateless. He sits in the same system, day after day, month after month, doing the exact same repetitive activity in the exact same location. ---
**Author:** ![Dexomus\_Viliana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dexomus_viliana/32/432560_2.png) [@Dexomus\_Viliana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dexomus_Viliana)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/37 "2022-09-29T19:17:28Z")
Can you stream snipe me please? I would feel complete. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/38 "2022-09-29T19:24:45Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > HateLess Who?? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/39 "2022-09-29T19:35:16Z")
He’s a Highsec miner. ---
**Author:** ![Hir\_Alland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hir_alland/32/332427_2.png) [@Hir\_Alland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hir_Alland)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/stream-sniping-in-eve/378739/40 "2022-09-29T19:45:28Z")
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