# Streamer stops due to grief **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366 "2022-08-30T23:29:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/289 "2022-08-31T12:28:20Z")
ok as I said you are welcome to your opinion on this so far today ive been a troll, hateless, out for gain you name it but anyways have a nice day That bit about american sports had me cracking up ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/290 "2022-08-31T12:31:06Z")
> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#): > > ok as I said you are welcome to your opinion LOL its truth my guy. Give it up. Read the dude’s post about hateless too. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/291 "2022-08-31T12:45:20Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > If @Destiny_Corrupted receives a communication that the person she removed from a ship in EvE died from his heart condition due to **her** (normal game and RP) actions, something that is unverifiable but may have considerable negative psychological impact, I would call that extremely close to harassment, if not flat out. I need someone to answer my original question ASAP because now I’m getting messages calling me a murderer etc. and I’m not sure what to do now. 🫤 ---
**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/292 "2022-08-31T12:50:01Z")
If this were legit than no you would not be at fault ---- would it be CCP’s fault is not my call but if they passed from a heart condition that extreme its likely it would have been natural The people who are ganking are just trying to have fun the same as anyone which is why the line is targeted harassment It sounds like a horrible experience & painful memory to say the least - sorry ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/293 "2022-08-31T12:51:38Z")
The answer should be this: collect all the evidence, make a ticket for possible harassment and have it looked at by ccp. You can also contact [Broadcast4Help](http://broadcast4reps.com/) to find a way out of the confusion and hear some balanced opinions. Or shrug it off after 10 years as a typical eve story (which it may have been, and a very vicious mindgame at that). P.S. it’s impossible to say if you _harassed_ those players of your story. If all that happened was (repeatedly) hunting them in hisec, that is not harassment, but legitimate gameplay within the established rules and setting. You know that. P.S.2 in the worst hypothetical case, if that player really died from his condition through playing the game (a very hard thing to prove, and then he would have died from two factors and not one), there is still nothing (at least in your version) that points towards “culpability”. You were playing the game just like so many others, doing your RP, like so many others, within the rules and the setting of the game itself. ---
**Author:** ![Stony\_Roberts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stony_roberts/32/392120_2.png) [@Stony\_Roberts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stony_Roberts)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/294 "2022-08-31T12:53:49Z")
The OP is right you guys, slightly inconveniencing a streamer for a few minutes is just a step too far! ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/295 "2022-08-31T13:22:09Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This is the reality. > > The gankers are not the griefers. > > Highsec miners are toxic. You know strange thing, I’ve never been griefed by a high sec miner ever never had abusive language thrown at me or had real threats made against me. Which if as toxic as you say would happen . On the other hand I am often abused in local chat by gankers I wonder why and what’s the trigger here. (by the way I don’t personally have a problem with any interaction I have had from gankers, others in corp are often shocked when they 1st see it ) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/296 "2022-08-31T13:24:08Z")
Githany, nobody has seen you in months. Are you sure you still even play the game? ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/297 "2022-08-31T13:24:16Z")
Probably because you don’t engage miners in pvp. I imagine if you did you would get the same reaction Aiko does. That’s not really an argument. You can see the screenshots of the stuff people say to her, it’s wild. ---
**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/298 "2022-08-31T13:29:33Z")
Do you feel its unusually toxic or is it just casual insults abuses etc? I am finding lots more people who have this experience in common who feel its just getting beyond being any type of fun for anyone Not even ganker or miner specific but all over the shop & none of us should be forced to deal with it ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/299 "2022-08-31T13:31:48Z")
Not saying it’s right what they say but her action trigger it, as mine trigger gankers. It’s not one group or the other. I accept the consequences of my actions and some gankers that started out very toxic and aggressive to me I have got to know quite well and we both have found out each other are ok in the end ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/300 "2022-08-31T13:33:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Are you sure you still even play the game? I’m never sure who’s alt I am how can I be sure I’m playing I’m actually on now are you ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/301 "2022-08-31T14:29:04Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I annoy myself does this mean that I am self griefing? Does being ‘killed’ in a ship I wasn’t even in count as griefing by the game itself ? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/302 "2022-08-31T14:30:45Z")
Wait [Altara Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara), you just gave yourself away I know your main now! ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/303 "2022-08-31T14:37:23Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Streamer did nothing to defend himself This is the part where it gets mind boggling to me! - they have the ISK - they have the alts - they have the people - THEN THEY DO NOTHING…NOTHING AT ALL Why they should be allowed to mine unbothered? Well… they are making more alts… chugging more skill injectors… buying more ships… getting stronger… The way they are playing this is almost the same as cheating! All those rocks will become Void S hitting my hulls… I don’t like this! We have to be allowed to harass other people ingame and keep it professional, keep it in the game, this is war, EVE is war on space! Hateless is playing this game for many years and he has an army of omega alts… he has to burn! There is no Burn Jita anymore, but we could have a Burn Hateless. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/304 "2022-08-31T14:37:28Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I know your main now! Dang it…I knew one day people would discover I’m really Aiko. Oh, and Destiny. And I am also you…though you don’t know it yet. Shh…don’t let on that _everyone_ in Eve is really me fighting myself. ( Well, ‘this **is** my main’ wouldn’t have sounded so good ) ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/305 "2022-08-31T14:38:09Z")
This thread delivers. I love when random nobodies who have played EVE for a sliver of it’s lifespan demand that thousands of players change to suit their sense of moral virtue. Ohnoeverythingistoxic!!! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/306 "2022-08-31T14:39:35Z")
…and `#thinkofthechildren` 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/307 "2022-08-31T14:41:11Z")
seems like streaming is a good way to get content to come to you! ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/308 "2022-08-31T14:48:15Z")
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