# Streamer stops due to grief

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366 "2022-08-30T23:29:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/369 "2022-08-31T16:28:50Z")

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As serious as your suggestion? Its the first thing anybody trying to impliment it would ask.

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/370 "2022-08-31T16:29:25Z")

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Oh you still want this to be about Hateless I see — will I be blamed or accused of bringing hateless up if I answer?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/371 "2022-08-31T16:30:03Z")

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No I want to know what the act was. Dont you know? If you dont know then just say “I dont know”.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/372 "2022-08-31T16:30:34Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> Hey you finally came around to my view. 😉

I’m glad you feel that way. I’m sorry to disappoint you though, my view is unchanged from our previous discussion.

If that confuses you, and you feel like I am shifting opinions, then perhaps you didn’t get my original message the first time around. Unfortunately, because of the sourness of that experience, I’m absolutely not interested in attempting to elaborate further.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/373 "2022-08-31T16:30:58Z")

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Sure thing bud 😉

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/374 "2022-08-31T16:33:16Z")

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He felt harassed after weeks of being contacted/stalked by the same twitch streamer plus their fans

though it annoyed me I didn’t want to go out and make a thread ruining people gameplay so i decided I would talk about toxicity instead as thats what I believe

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/375 "2022-08-31T16:33:45Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> I wont be commenting on the hateless issue

You literally made the post about Hateless.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/376 "2022-08-31T16:33:55Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> He felt harassed

Ah ok so feelies then

As I suspected.

Case closed

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/377 "2022-08-31T16:34:32Z")

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Hi aiko again you yourself have received death threats this is clearly an issue

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/378 "2022-08-31T16:35:46Z")

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thanks but no thanks as I said this is about harassment not hateless ^.^ pretty sure its up to CCP to decide if it needs closing

thanks for your input great talks

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/379 "2022-08-31T16:36:04Z")

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And I said

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/380 "2022-08-31T16:37:31Z")

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Maybe if EVE-O was harassless this thread would not exist. 😏 😏 😏 :dealwithitparrot:

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/381 "2022-08-31T16:37:38Z")

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This thread died when OP tipped his hand and suggested that any form ongoing competition or conflict in EVE was “targeted harassment”. It’s pretty clear what OP wants: risk free EVEing.

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**Author:** ![Adrian\_Vexier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adrian_vexier/32/352640_2.png) [@Adrian\_Vexier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adrian_Vexier)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/382 "2022-08-31T16:37:40Z")

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Greetings nice people,  
Thank you for the river of salt and fun read. But amusement aside, there are some serious issues regarding this matter. I’ve responded to it and pointed out the issues in this post:

> [@Setting the record strainght - Addressing the Hateless drama](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/setting-the-record-strainght-addressing-the-hateless-drama/375432):
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> Greetings fellow capsuleers, It has come to my attention that one of my recent EVE: Online gaming sessions has caused some drama in the community. Namely my interaction with in-game player @HateLesS and his fleet of 12 alt accounts, which took place yesterday – 2022.08.30, in the system of Reisen, during approximately 19:00 – 20:00 EVE time. He was mining with his Orca and a company of Hulks and my gameplay consisted of bumping his Orca with my Machariel. That is it. No ganking, no stealing, n…

Long story - short: @HateLesS tried to used his EVE PArtner status as a privilege and leverage to get me banned and he also tried to allude to me threatening him to emotionaly black-mail the GM team and to milk simpathy from the EVE: Online Community. I think this is appaling behavior and unbecoming attitude.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/383 "2022-08-31T16:39:44Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/4/6/7465737d78c81690811813d837f0c8e2f29472dd.jpeg)

Any way, Hateless is part of a soft generation, used to saying that anything they don’t like is “harassment” and “threatening” and then Daddy comes to rescue them.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/384 "2022-08-31T16:40:19Z")

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Okay but did you or did you not send him death threats or other harassing mails that some people claim he received (allegedly from you I guess)?

(Just to have a clear answer for future reference.)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/385 "2022-08-31T16:41:24Z")

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But but this isnt about … Uh

Wait what day is it?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/386 "2022-08-31T16:42:01Z")

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You still care what OP is saying? 😛 🙂

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/387 "2022-08-31T16:42:05Z")

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Easy enough to prove.

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/388 "2022-08-31T16:43:29Z")

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Hi Adrian welcome — Ive actually kept as many details out of this thread as possible  
if you feel like sharing on here feel free to use the thread as that link seems broken

though their is no Adrian hate train or hateless love train here its suppose to be about the core issues behind toxicity not hateless specific

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