# Streamer stops due to grief

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366 "2022-08-30T23:29:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/449 "2022-08-31T18:12:22Z")

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What a cop out. But thanks for clarifying my earlier point that CCP already has rules on the books for this stuff.

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/450 "2022-08-31T18:12:54Z")

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CCP call it targeted harassment you literally asked me to define the term here you go

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/451 "2022-08-31T18:12:54Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> I dont remember mentioning anything about hateless?

You mentioned him in the title to this thread, and your gaslighting statement here suggests that you have no interest in a serious discussion.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/452 "2022-08-31T18:12:57Z")

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Except the fact that he’s your favorite streamer and ragequit due to “harassment”?

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/453 "2022-08-31T18:13:24Z")

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What do they call “targeted harassment”???

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/454 "2022-08-31T18:13:36Z")

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I don’t mention hateless in my thread actually its about grief we’ve been through this Aiko

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/455 "2022-08-31T18:14:09Z")

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Everyone knew you were taking about him.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/456 "2022-08-31T18:14:19Z")

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I’m reading the title right now.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/5/895143f8f92852080f2f998f2553db743e4b0c5b.png)

You are clearly claiming that Hateless was griefed, without any evidence.

We’ve been through this anonymous troll alt.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/457 "2022-08-31T18:14:30Z")

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CCP facilitates and promotes this anti-player behavior and activity.

They celebrate it, and always have in my 13 years in the game. I’ve warned about it all along.

Here we are, at 2006 player counts and FALLING.

‘You get what you \*\*\*\*ing deserve!’ (_Joker_, 2019)

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/458 "2022-08-31T18:15:04Z")

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Actually its you, Aiko & others who keep referring to him as Ive explained this isnt hateless specific I am happy to continue like a broken record for days on end if you would like to ask this again later 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/459 "2022-08-31T18:16:15Z")

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Streamer quits due to what Aiko?  
so what is the topic?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/460 "2022-08-31T18:16:19Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> Ive explained this isnt hateless specific

Which streamer are you referring to in the title of your original post?

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/461 "2022-08-31T18:16:41Z")

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Does that matter? its not about the streamer is about the toxic environment

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/462 "2022-08-31T18:16:51Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> Does that matter?

Yes, of course.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/463 "2022-08-31T18:17:20Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I’m reading the title right now.
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> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/5/895143f8f92852080f2f998f2553db743e4b0c5b.png)
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> You are clearly claiming that Hateless was griefed, without any evidence.

And here we have Exhibit A in player harassment and griefing _personified_, making a personal appearance…

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/464 "2022-08-31T18:17:29Z")

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Back to going in circles right?

> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> its not about the streamer is about the toxic environment

good times

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/465 "2022-08-31T18:17:42Z")

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So who was harassed?

Anyone?

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/466 "2022-08-31T18:18:08Z")

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I’m happy to continue as well. My longest running forum argument was 6 years and 15,000+ posts.

At any rate: you claimed hateless quit due to “harassment” but have yet to show how it fit the definition of harassment and not valid gameplay. You just keep spinning in circles.

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**Author:** ![Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaurl_kurvora/32/507459_2.png) [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaurl_Kurvora)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/467 "2022-08-31T18:18:08Z")

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For starters youve received death threats & admitted nothing was done

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/468 "2022-08-31T18:19:16Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> For starters youve received death threats

I have withdrawn any claims, as I do not wish to have you push your views on others, while citing me as your sole example.

So, is there anyone claiming harassment or griefing? You have said this is not about Hateless, so I can only assume that Hateless is no longer claiming that he was harassed.

Anyone else?

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