# Streamer stops due to grief

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366 "2022-08-30T23:29:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/257 "2022-08-31T11:41:30Z")

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> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> Again this post is about harassment even if you really want it to be about hateless I am sorry its just not

Go power trip somewhere else dude. In your original post you state:

> [@Jaurl\_Kurvora](#):
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> **my favorite streamer** who has taught me a dramatic amount about the mechanics in Eve online **has just stopped making content**
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> **Why?**  
> **Griefers** — we all know they exist in small circles around our galaxy

The streamer in question is Hateless and the “griefing” in question is ganking, bumping, and contesting his sites (all valid gameplay). You got pushed back hard and now you’re trying to wiggle out of it saying it’s not about Hateless and it’s about “harassment” (“threats”, “mails”) - none of which was mentioned by Hateless and all of which are already covered in the EULA and TOS.

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