# Strongholds in Ihatalo **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [November 27, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119 "2021-11-27T17:27:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/1 "2021-11-27T17:27:12Z")
Why are the Guristas putting up strongholds in the constellation of Ihatalo in the Forge so often? They must really want that constellation. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/2 "2021-11-27T18:32:51Z")
That’s a Cosmos mission constellation. These things are probably fixed spawns. ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/3 "2021-11-27T19:09:03Z")
Ah, so maybe if I don’t want to be bothered by them so much I should move my corporation’s base? ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/4 "2021-11-27T19:13:33Z")
Oh, and what’s a Cosmos mission? ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/5 "2021-11-28T06:07:32Z")
> [@COSMOS mission guide](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cosmos-mission-guide/249257/3): > > Out of curiosity, is eve-survival still up? I could be wrong but I think that also had good advise for COSMOS missions. [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/COSMOS](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/COSMOS) They are basically what other games call quests or storylines. And no, the Guristas will not take over the constellation or something. In the grand scheme of things so far (CCP has been trying to change this for years now) the sovereignty states of all systems except for faction warfare systems are set in stone. For the foreseeable future, this constellation will remain in Caldari State hands. ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/6 "2021-11-28T17:16:28Z")
I know, I was making a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/7 "2021-11-28T18:38:16Z")
Okay, but I wasn’t. Players want more fluid, ever changing ownership of systems and CCP is seriously considering it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/8 "2021-11-28T19:39:30Z")
Interesting, so they might let even hisec systems change hands? ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/9 "2021-11-28T19:41:27Z")
Or even let players pull systems back out of Pochven? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/10 "2021-11-28T20:01:19Z")
Who knows, to be honest. Anything is possible. It’s still only a faint idea without anything specific being said or done towards this endgoal. But the idea has been floated a few times. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/strongholds-in-ihatalo/339119/11 "2022-02-26T20:01:32Z")
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