# Sugestion to CCP to increase New player Retention and OMEGA

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [January 15, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236 "2021-01-15T12:06:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/195 "2021-02-19T16:49:47Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Something would be wrong when these things were available for free, like your suggested SP reshuffle.

it is not free…Its not possible to make it ingame money either . this one will turn many forever alfa made and thrown óut accounts into omega… also many people has kind of emotional ties to their first characters.. later on they give upon her , they can get alive..

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**Author:** ![Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yahamssi_judihuijj/32/392777_2.png) [@Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yahamssi_Judihuijj)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/196 "2021-02-19T16:51:38Z")

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Just another stupid, selfserving “please, think of the newbies”-Thread from another self proclaimed White Knight.

Get Omega, help pay for the Staff and Servers and then you can re-arrange your Skillspoints all day with Injectors.

ISD please close Thread. TiA.

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/197 "2021-02-19T17:07:21Z")

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> [@Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](#):
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> “please, think of the newbies”

Yes. I think about new players… also retention . And im focusing on possible solutions which doesnt effect game mechanics but increase the air quality

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/198 "2021-02-19T17:07:45Z")

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> [@bluelysian](#):
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> it is not free…Its not possible to make it ingame money either

So what is the cost to CCP then? or profit?

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/199 "2021-02-19T17:10:11Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> So what is the cost to CCP then?

Will apply the same code they use for recruit a friend.. when a person billed with a credit card pay one omega then he will get the token for reconfiguring only alfa skills limited and under 5 mil skill point and only limits of skill points they have already trained over time

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/200 "2021-02-19T17:12:09Z")

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your idea affects anybody that signs up with a heartbeat, not just newbros… again -1 bad idea… this really needs to go in the bad idea thread…

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/201 "2021-02-19T17:15:17Z")

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SO you believe no new player wants to have chance to make 5 mil focused pilot after they figure out the game … for just one month omega sub, and prefers to start make new one and train 5 month and wait for that …

there is lot of vets here thinks like that and there is lot of new pilots im talking who are very greatefull even with the idea… so weird… Are you ( you in here sense of all vets rallying against ) selling focused pilots in market or such by any chance???

Because this one will water many players plans and instead fill the CCP s pocket … Is that the deal ? well i think now i see why skill farm alt owners and these sellers are rallying

ok

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**Author:** ![Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yahamssi_judihuijj/32/392777_2.png) [@Yahamssi\_Judihuijj](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yahamssi_Judihuijj)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/202 "2021-02-19T17:25:59Z")

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> [@bluelysian](#):
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> there is lot of new pilots im talking who are very greatefull even with the idea… so weird…

Maybe you should stop talking to the imaginary voices in your head

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/203 "2021-02-19T17:34:58Z")

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**Author:** ![Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astelon_bheskagor/32/360222_2.png) [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astelon_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/204 "2021-02-19T22:13:57Z")

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new player here

i have chosen my skills carefully and do not regret it , if i did wrong that’s it i ■■■■■■ up , my fault i suffer consequences and that is ok , i can just create new free account .  
what you propose takes away consequences from the game and i do not think this will be good for it , next step will be what ? free pvp reimbursement for loses ? i do not want that , me killed while mining , my fault.

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/205 "2021-02-19T22:41:25Z")

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How nice i would love to see this kind of pilots more in rookie help too…

By the way… will be hard on you in the begining as alfa but veterans already have that chance they can extract and inject , Much more cheaper and easier for them to use it than you… and its fair game …

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/206 "2021-02-19T22:44:53Z")

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Also i find it exhalirating that actually i have launch event for new pilots and only announced in forums for a week to test visibility of forum pages and no new pilot commented or attended …

. then here … suddenly some perfect ideal new pilots aligned with vets , finding their way here , landing and commenting… this is awsome…

May be should announce events here instead …

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**Author:** ![Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astelon_bheskagor/32/360222_2.png) [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astelon_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/207 "2021-02-19T22:47:49Z")

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i have nothing to do with veterans , i hate them they are on the dark side , if they kill me that’s it they kill me , because i’m still new and don’t know things , but i don’t want to play their game , join them and do as they say , i am not here to be exploited , i just want to be happy and enjoy the game.

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**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/208 "2021-02-19T23:13:56Z")

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There is many good vets in this game also too… not everybody acting on with malign intentions… todays new pilots also futures vets hopefully …

My point was… im totally agree with you… in fact … there shouldnt be any waynyo extract and inject skill points as well as no free skill points… there was no such thig in old good days… but CCp intrduced this into game and now its part of the game

Bottom line. YES every pilot omega who has more than 5 mil skill points they can extract the skills down to 5 mil skill point and inject back … and reaorganise their skills… so … its new players who cannot benefit …

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**Author:** ![Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astelon_bheskagor/32/360222_2.png) [@Astelon\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astelon_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/209 "2021-02-19T23:17:17Z")

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i have picked my poison and i take full responsibility for it. i will forge my own destiny.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sugestion-to-ccp-to-increase-new-player-retention-and-omega/290236/210 "2021-02-19T23:20:02Z")

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We all do… either people accept or not thats the reality of EVE…

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