# Suggestion for new player acquisition and retention

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 24, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930 "2020-02-24T22:11:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/181 "2020-02-27T19:03:47Z")

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> [@Theron\_Larkis](#):
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> ALL so called “newbie friendly” large groups are terrible

I resent that statement.

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**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/182 "2020-02-27T19:30:21Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> I resent that statement

But deep down you know I’m right.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/183 "2020-02-27T19:56:14Z")

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> [@Theron\_Larkis](#):
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> But deep down you know I’m right.

Do not pull a Balos on me now.

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**Author:** ![San\_Regal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/san_regal/32/187310_2.png) [@San\_Regal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/San_Regal)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/184 "2020-02-27T21:35:35Z")

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Wait is this guy advocating for more supers?

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/185 "2020-02-27T22:22:02Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> Lol no.
> 
> RvB were a dedicated war group and are now a dedicated FW group.  
> Eve uni run lessons and maintain in house structures and war ops.  
> Brave moved to null fairly quickly.
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> You’re using noobs to push your agenda and encourage them to ‘play the victim’.

Lol yes, we are doing a lot to help newbies and the game, you complaining about it as a bittervet is proof of that.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/186 "2020-02-27T22:29:07Z")

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> [@San\_Regal](#):
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> Wait is this guy advocating for more supers?

I want to have full capital access in highsec, I am the dude you likely heard about 🙂

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**Author:** ![Equinoxx\_Dethahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/equinoxx_dethahal/32/179145_2.png) [@Equinoxx\_Dethahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Equinoxx_Dethahal)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/187 "2020-02-28T14:29:48Z")

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Its not except theres tons of corps that do just this. Its why and how I got into the game. Just bridging that instinct to high sec alone until skilled…there needs to be a better iteration of the npc corp, pay for tutors subs and have them teaching newbros,

There’s got to be a better way.

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**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/188 "2020-02-28T14:38:17Z")

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> [@Equinoxx\_Dethahal](#):
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> There’s got to be a better way.

Sure just apply magic and ask the tooth fairy, maybe some Irish leprechauns. What you’re asking for is not realistic and as such wanting it to happen is not helping the situation, it just perpetuates it.

There seems to be a distinct lack of effort on your part in your sentences, perhaps go do something about the problem instead of asking “others” to solve “the problem”.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/189 "2020-02-28T15:37:07Z")

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> [@Equinoxx\_Dethahal](#):
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> Honestly putting new players right into a welcome corp like eve uni or some curated corp would help.
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> Just moving and functioning is rough to a new player. Then it becomes what can I do and how…then overcoming the fear of over complication and risk of loss.
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> Being guided by a vet on low sec stuff, roams, how to rat ect would help.

Agreed, definitely would help new players.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/190 "2020-02-28T15:41:30Z")

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> [@Julien\_Brellier](#):
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> 1. Delete all capital ships
> 2. Remove Alpha status
> 3. Remove Skill Injectors
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> Three steps to saving the awful state EVE is in.

Deserves to be reposted.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/191 "2020-02-28T15:42:51Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> I want to have full capital access in highsec, I am the dude you likely heard about

The one everyone was lolling in chat.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/192 "2020-02-28T16:54:34Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> The one everyone was lolling in chat.

Considering bittervets are united in angry rage, I think you wish that were the case 🤣

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/193 "2020-02-28T16:56:29Z")

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Still living in that crack bubble eh?

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/194 "2020-02-28T17:00:16Z")

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> Still living in that crack bubble eh?

I live in the minds of many bittervets rent free, yours included 😉

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/195 "2020-02-28T17:03:18Z")

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You are just a little more deluded than the other quarter million pixel cowards that came, wept and left.

But in the end it is time for you to return to The River Fodder.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/196 "2020-02-28T17:03:48Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> You are just a little more deluded than the other quarter million pixel cowards that came, wept and left.
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> But in the end it is time for you to9 return to The River Fodder.

Nope, keep raging I’m here to stay permanently 🙂

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/197 "2020-02-28T17:08:20Z")

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That’s what they all say.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/198 "2020-02-28T17:17:02Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> we are doing a lot to help newbies and the game, you complaining about it as a bittervet is proof of that.

Jesus wept.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/199 "2020-02-28T17:19:16Z")

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> [@Julien\_Brellier](#):
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> 1. Delete all capital ships
> 2. Remove Alpha status
> 3. Remove Skill Injectors
> 
> Three steps to saving the awful state EVE is in.

Needs to be repeated.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggestion-for-new-player-acquisition-and-retention/221930/200 "2020-02-28T18:07:30Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Needs to be repeated.

Nope, removing that is basically pure newbie nerf.

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