# Suicide ganking balance **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [October 26, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028 "2018-10-26T14:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/187 "2018-11-06T09:30:57Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > At first glance it looks perfectly same, but the devil is in details šŸ˜Š It always is. Well, if you arenā€™t going to explain more, then I will just assume BDO uses a similar PK-reputation system as Eve and a bunch of other open-world PvP games and thus nothing is going to change. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/189 "2018-11-06T09:50:18Z")
IOW, youā€™re going to continue spamming your inane ā€œEVE WILL CHANGEā€ posts without contributing anything to the discussion. At this point the only question I have is why anyone is bothering to attempt to have a conversation with you when youā€™re obviously a broken chat bot. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/191 "2018-11-06T10:06:03Z")
Like I said, broken chat bot posting inane garbage. Can we all collectively agree to ignore Predvodnica LSG and hope that maybe it gets bored and stops posting? ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/192 "2018-11-06T13:05:32Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > As it is now, with them having this bad habit of just staying docked all day long, their interaction and PVP opportunities for other players are minimal. > Gankers need to travel more and become available targets as any other player, and also must get used to stay in space more than few seconds every few hours or so. Sureā€¦remove faction police and criminal timer, and gankers will stay in space longer to be targets. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/193 "2018-11-06T13:09:58Z")
They can do that alreadyā€¦ in low sec and null space. I guess is much more simple and effective way to make two small game mechanic changes, than to transform the entire high sec space in low sec just for gankers convenience šŸ™„ And if docking rights in high sec are removed for outlaws, that will be a good push for the suicide gankers for a more active game play. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/198 "2018-11-06T20:46:46Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > You cannot ask for haulers to be free targets as long you can hide all day long in a high sec station or citadel. Wait, haulers canā€™t hide in stations? These people, who are customers, are not criminals for doing what everyone can do just because you personally donā€™t like it. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/200 "2018-11-07T07:41:07Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Wait, haulers canā€™t hide in stations? No, they cannot, because you seeā€¦ they are haulers, and the game mechanic force them to travel through space to move their assets. So we come to this kind of absurd arguments just to justify and keep some unfair advantages? The balance i suggest bring similar requirements for all the players who like to hunt them, to be required to travel through space to get their prey, not to sit like some lazy leeches hidden in a high sec structure for 99,99% of the time. Game mechanics favor at this moment suicide gankers and allow them an unwarranted level of safety, as they donā€™t need to expose himself to interactions with the other players. And that, even if you admit it or not, is a serious issue. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/202 "2018-11-07T17:04:49Z")
lol, pure comedy, thatā€™s for the belly laugh. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/203 "2018-11-07T19:00:40Z")
If you have nothing relevant to say on this topic, then refrain from posting and stop polluting this thread. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-balance/116028/205 "2019-02-05T20:18:08Z")
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