# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![DKslopoke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dkslopoke/32/487122_2.png) [@DKslopoke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DKslopoke)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/331 "2026-01-07T08:31:19Z")
imagine hisec without ganking, what do you see? Utopia, and Utopia is entropy in every test that has ever been conducted. Smoke weed everyday. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/332 "2026-01-07T08:43:52Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Easy targets because they can’t PvP in Low or Null, because PvP in those security systems don’t guarantee a win every time like High Sec ganking does. In Low and Null there are pirates and corporations that are experts at real PvP and would tear anything apart that Aiko sent. [They kill people in low and null pretty frequently.](https://zkillboard.com/asearch/#%7B%22buttons%22:%5B%22togglefilters%22,%22week%22,%22rolling%22,%22label-loc:lowsec%22,%22label-loc:nullsec%22,%22label-loc:w-space%22,%22label-loc:abyssal%22,%22attackers-aand%22,%22either-and%22,%22victims-and%22,%22sort-date%22,%22sort-desc%22,%22page1%22,%22allinvolved%22%5D,%22neutrals%22:%5B%7B%22type%22:%22allianceID%22,%22id%22:99010569%7D%5D,%22includeAssociates%22:true%7D) I wouldn’t write them off just because you look down on the activity they’re most known for. Many of the most known gankers originally came from null blocs and only ganked during their downtime, Aiko rather stands out from them in having it as her main playstyle. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/333 "2026-01-07T09:07:38Z")
Aiko only stands out due to her forum content and the presence of her alts that she uses to rig such a presence. The only type of PvPer’s that come from Null to High Sec are those who want to pad their numbers with cheap kills, then return to Null and run high level PvE content to lower their High Sec status and then return to High Sec for more cheap pad kills. As of 2026, **Vanokc Alland** holds the highest number of ship kills in _[EVE Online](https://www.google.com/search?q=EVE+Online&kgmid=/m/0243qz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDu7_YiPmRAxVk1fACHXZpNwEQ3egRegQIAhAD)_ history. According to all-time rankings on [zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/ranks/k/all/alltime/1/), the primary community tracking site for player combat, the top characters by total ships destroyed are: - **Vanokc Alland:** 114,620 ships destroyed. - **Erasmus II:** 88,94k ships destroyed. - **Arthur Hemanseh:** 82.77k ships destroyed. - **Headhunter JAX:** 81.87k ships destroyed. - **Linghu Cong:** 80.36k ships destroyed. Different Ways to Measure “Highest Kills” Kill counts are often categorized by the _value_ of destruction rather than just the number of hulls. - **Highest Value (ISK) Destroyed:** Linghu Cong leads in value, having destroyed over **80.47 trillion ISK** worth of enemy assets. - **Highest Points:** AshenShugar01 is ranked #1 for total combat points (a metric weighing kill difficulty), with over **451k points**. ---
**Author:** ![DKslopoke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dkslopoke/32/487122_2.png) [@DKslopoke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DKslopoke)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/334 "2026-01-07T09:11:28Z")
awww, Your just a nerd \<3, this went from skill developing to tool polishing fast! Zkill is the tool of tools, change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/335 "2026-01-07T10:55:58Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Easy targets because they can’t PvP in Low or Null, Aiko’s killboard says differently. She has done a lot of low and null pvp. On page 19 of her killboard, she has capital ships that she’s helped destroy. She has some Rorquals, a Hel, and an Avatar. Scrolling through her killboard shows that she ventures into null every now and then. I am not responsible for anyone finding this post late after Aiko has pushed these results further down than page 19. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/336 "2026-01-07T11:01:45Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > On page 19 of her killboard We are not a huge fan of your boring attitude towards making out that you are the number one fan okay? It’s not a good look on you! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/337 "2026-01-07T11:03:05Z")
What the hell are you talking about? That made no sense. Someone please translate ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/338 "2026-01-07T11:03:53Z")
You’re making out that you’re a huge fan. Can’t you see what you are saying? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/339 "2026-01-07T11:04:29Z")
Aiko is great at what she does. To claim otherwise would be lying. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/341 "2026-01-07T12:20:07Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > // remember the subject background on this is that from Dryson commenting regarding PvP in lowsec or Nulsec. Remember what? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/342 "2026-01-07T12:31:03Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Remember what? That I disapprove of your favouritism of page 19 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/343 "2026-01-07T12:45:12Z")
Calm down, miner. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/344 "2026-01-07T14:41:07Z")
Your is spelled you’re not your. You must be young and think that magical phrases will bait someone to lower ther levels of standards. When I do enter the environment, I often times fly FW sites by myself. I do engage in PvP, but most of the time, the PvP fights involve several others that warp into the site. Why High Sec gankers arent flying around ganking FW ships is beyond me, oh no wait. The reason that High Sec gankers don’t PvP in Low Sec is, the ships are much faster and not a freighter as well as the ships in Low fighting back. High Sec ganking is a poor PvPers excuse for PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/345 "2026-01-07T15:22:00Z")
It’s too easy tbh. In fact I’m going to start doing it. Remove security status changes from combat in lowsec. It’s just a punishment for living somewhere that is already a barren wasteland. drastically increase security status penalty for high sec and for the faction of the space you ganked in. Add implant drops to clone soldiers or something. It needs to be too expensive/difficult to consistently repair your security status so that gankers are engagable before they gank. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/346 "2026-01-07T15:25:17Z")
> [@Jehle](#): > > It’s too easy tbh. In fact I’m going to start doing it. Very welcome. Each gank is fruitful for the economy. Stuff gets destroyed, needs to be replaced, new materials need to be acquired, market values go up instead of being devalued. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/347 "2026-01-07T15:29:54Z")
> [@Jehle](#): > > It needs to be too expensive/difficult to consistently repair your security status That sounds balanced… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/348 "2026-01-07T15:45:45Z")
Just remove clone tags entirely. There are still many ways around the player security system, but it’s absolutely pants on head stupid that people can instantly, and infinitely, nullify what’s supposed to be a punishment system for long term bad behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/349 "2026-01-07T15:55:54Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Just remove clone tags entirely. Carebear dreams… ⛅ ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/350 "2026-01-07T15:59:55Z")
It’s bandaid for a badly designed system. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/351 "2026-01-07T16:05:29Z")
It’s accomodation for people who cried and stomped their feet after getting “locked” out of high sec. Because they spent five hours sitting on a gate shooting, and podding, everyone who dared come through it, and fully expected to have zero long term consequence for doing so. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=18)