# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/433 "2026-01-25T22:10:03Z")
Like I said, very telling. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/434 "2026-01-25T22:12:56Z")
That’s all the gankers ever do. They change the wording of their posts and post the same thing over and over again, thus proving they lack validation. Why don’t we see the top PvPer’s on the forums engaging in the same promotion of look at me, look at me and how good I am? Because the top PvPer’s don’t need validation, all they need is their Kboard. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/435 "2026-01-25T22:51:33Z")
That’s all the anti-gankers ever do. They change the wording of their posts and post the same thing over and over again, thus proving they lack validation. The person whose comment I copied has been doing this for nearly as long as Eve Online has been, well, online. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/436 "2026-01-26T01:12:24Z")
![IMG_0813](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/1/09153563946fc7574eb2b1b271f337124cfedf76.jpeg) Seems like you like telling stories, please allow me to share an image that paints a story for telling others other than oneself. ---
**Author:** ![Hakokeed\_Hakoke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hakokeed_hakoke/32/475298_2.png) [@Hakokeed\_Hakoke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hakokeed_Hakoke)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/437 "2026-01-26T13:34:30Z")
I will say IMO its not the ganks they are an intended game play loop. its the whales. allowing a single player to create their own gank squad or ice mining squad of more than 3 characters breaks the game play loop. 100% eve problems would be solve by limited 3 simultaneous accounts per IP address. I know ccp will never do this the only thing propping this game up from total collapse are the whales with 10-30 accounts. The inflation, the ice mining issues, the ganking issue all revolve back to allowing to many multi boxing accounts per player. Most reputable pvp games limit how many characters you can play at once. Eve seems to have ignored that in favor of profits. So go ahead whine some more, I am calling it legit how i see it as 20 year vet of eve. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/438 "2026-01-26T16:12:25Z")
By your IP suggestion, I see you have tried, but have no technical IT background… ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/439 "2026-01-26T19:25:21Z")
I am not even going to bite, though I know those killer whales sure did! 🐋 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/440 "2026-01-26T20:00:06Z")
This is balanced out by ganker multiboxers. Reddit just posted about a ganker with 34 cats. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/441 "2026-01-27T00:01:59Z")
The balance is also when a miner tries to cause Intergalactic tension S. ![IMG_0816](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/7/a07a1848b90b9647f5852999647e0012279d0f44.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/442 "2026-01-27T10:22:21Z")
Oooh now I see what you are after a balance! That makes sense that someone can access loot faster than others. That is very balanced indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/443 "2026-01-27T12:11:31Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > If the same situation happens in real life, a car is crashed into by another car and a friend of the crasher shows up and takes stuff from the vehicle, that is considered theft and the law will intervene. EVE is not real life though, yet EVE is very similar to real life here and does already consider such an act theft! ‘Theft’ in EVE results in a suspect timer. In this case that happens as well: theft from such a wreck get a suspect timer so anyone can legally attack the thief. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/444 "2026-01-27T17:12:43Z")
I’m guessing this one? Because holy ■■■■ that’s absolutely sad to see. High Sec is literally the most dangerous area in the game. > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1qmfw8q/how_stupid_is_that/)** ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/445 "2026-01-27T17:17:57Z")
Here’s the actual link > **[Orca | Bequie | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/132885592/)** > > Bequie (Quam Singulari Industry) lost their Orca in Jakri (Kador). Final Blow by KARMA'S REVENGE 2 (Sokar Syndicate) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 1,986,810,647.46 ISK If he’d spent the money for a max fit, it would have survived that gate camp. But I can easily understand why he thought that would have been enough. Under most circumstances, it would have been. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/446 "2026-01-27T17:38:05Z")
The original point still stands. Highsec absolutely falls apart when people can simply launch 30+ alts to kill a ship that they wouldn’t be able to scratch otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/447 "2026-01-27T17:53:28Z")
It’s dangerous for sure. I’m not disputing that one bit! ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/448 "2026-01-27T18:01:51Z")
No, the ability to instantly scoop large amounts of loot from a wreck destroyed by gankers not involved in the gank is an exploit. If neutrals are not allowed to remote rep a ship under a gank attack, then why should gankers not involved with the gank be allowed to scoop the loot instantly? With all of the Concord on scene, those in Concord who have been bribed would instantly be found out due to the wreck contents not having been checked. Therefore Concord must be given enough time ,at least 30 seconds, to check the loot for illegal cargo. After finishing the investigation and due to content not legally belonging to Concord or the gankers, the owner of the wreck has three minutes to get another ship and retrieve as much of their loot as possible. After three minutes the can turns blue for anyone too loot. Why should gankers be allowed to retrieve loot legally that was aquired illegally to begin with? If gankers are so good at PvP, align the Orca to a ganker station, fit the Orca with fast align and warp speed, loot the wreck at near warp out then warp out within the time frame that the owner is reshipping which triggers a suspect timer. The gank was an illegal action so to should the act of looting the wreck by neurtal gankers also be considered an illegal action. Thus more PvP is generated around the wreck then the mere gank itself. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/449 "2026-01-27T18:06:32Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > If neutrals are not allowed to remote rep a ship under a gank attack, then why should gankers not involved with the gank be allowed to scoop the loot instantly? A neutral can remote rep a gank victim. If the gank victim isn’t suspect, then the remote repper won’t be suspect. When I’m mining, I have 2 large repair drones from the Orca on the Hulk at all times with the Hulk targetted for a remote shield booster II that can be turned on in an instant. It’s not full proof, but it serves as a deterrent and increases the number of coercers needed. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/450 "2026-01-27T18:20:16Z")
Correction, you can’t rep someone who, from shooting back at the ganker, is under the effect of a limited engagement timer in High Sec. That is considered “interferance”, and thus a criminal activity. Which is immensely stupid, but it’s another thing CCP does to weigh things in the gankers’ favor. I assume the intent was to stop people from interfering in duels. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/451 "2026-01-27T18:26:57Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > The original point still stands. Highsec absolutely falls apart when people can simply launch 30+ alts to kill a ship that they wouldn’t be able to scratch otherwise. Did you do the math on the killmail? Was it a loss or a win for the gankers? Also what prevented the Orca pilot from mounting a better defense? Do you have any idea how such defenses could look like? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/452 "2026-01-27T19:00:09Z")
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