# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind

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**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/495 "2026-02-01T13:10:49Z")

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Check zkillboard before posting anything. She always work with the same players and only fly coercers. Same tactics: distract Concord and perform a gank. I’m not going to wait hours for them to undock, and besides, you still run the risk of them ganking you.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/496 "2026-02-01T13:17:50Z")

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Aiko is the name.

Distracting CONCORD is my game.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/2/4/d24aab8874dcc3c1d9e2f9ea9986e0a29af246b0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/497 "2026-02-01T15:05:49Z")

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I do this at least three times a week and i never get shot or messed with at all. I really think your highly exaggerating about this.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/498 "2026-02-01T15:50:48Z")

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> [@ImRustY](#):
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> I’d say try it yourself. Send your hauler with 100 mil in loot to Jita and see how many times you get shot.

That would get me anecdotal ecidence at best.

Also whenever I sent my hauler with a lot more than that to Jita I never got shot yet. At least, not in HS. Maybe blockade runners are hard to catch.

I’d rather like to see you give some evidence when you make claims about ganking becoming worse. Non-anecdotal please.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/499 "2026-02-01T15:51:42Z")

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> [@Done25](#):
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> There is no way to realistically win against a catalyst swarm if they use N+1 to the fullest extent of its power. By the very nature of the gank, they are already planning to die. They only need to survive in large enough numbers to kill their target before CONCORD arrives.

No mining ship of mine has ever died to a gank squad. I’ve been attacked only once. It was 7 Catalysts vs my Skiff. They got my shields to 50% by the time Concord arrived. Since then, I’ve maxed out my shield skills and improved my shield tanking. Not even my Hulk would lose to a gank squad now because it would just be too much trouble with an Orca covering it with two large shield drones with a remote shield booster at the ready.

But hey, if you need to buy a mining permit, I’ll gladly sell you one. I’ll do all of the paperwork and route it through the right channels to get you paid protection for one year. Just send me 150m ISK in game and I’ll take care of it.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/500 "2026-02-01T16:59:03Z")

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> [@ImRustY](#):
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> I’ve been playing online for 18 years now, with breaks in between. In all these years, my characters have been ganked in total of 10 times. However, I see a clear difference between 2020 and 2025.

Can you please share your data regarding the difference between 2020 and 2025?

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**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/501 "2026-02-01T20:42:51Z")

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> [@ImRustY](#):
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> I’d say try it yourself. Send your hauler with 100 mil in loot to Jita and see how many times you get shot.

Maybe that is your problem right here…you do not “send a hauler to Jita”…you actively fly your hauler to Jita. Preferably with informational awareness, such as a scout and a zkillboard and a statistical map review. Also maybe don’t use a hauler, but a ship that you can tank better, depending on the desired freight of course.

These were just the very basic suggestion. Not going into filamenting, ninja flights through chokepoints or anything else. And if all that is too hard, don’t fly to Jita, fly to another trade hub.

You are suggesting that every freight to Jita is stopped, no matter how small. If that was the case, there would have been an impact to the trade at Jita. Yet there are no reports about that. At least objective information about that could have been produced by someone or CCP. Yet nothing appeared.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/502 "2026-02-01T23:38:56Z")

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> [@ImRustY](#):
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> I’d say try it yourself. Send your hauler with 100 mil in loot to Jita and see how many times you get shot

I just flew a hauler and a freighter with over 600m in loot out of Jita even with active gate camps.

Both my Deluge and Avalanche made it safely.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/503 "2026-02-02T00:24:55Z")

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I chicken out part way and split my haul around Hatakani heading inwards towards Jita.

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**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/504 "2026-02-02T18:22:21Z")

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You’re most likely to survive a gank if you fit a warpcore stab instead of humongous amounts of tank, their initial shotcaller is usually the one with a scrambler, the rest using sebos.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/505 "2026-02-02T18:36:26Z")

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> [@ImRustY](#):
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> I’d say try it yourself. Send your hauler with 100 mil in loot to Jita and see how many times you get shot.

How about….never. 100m is a _piffling_ amount of stuff to transport anyway. Nobody is going to gank a well tanked ship for just 100m in cargo. They might attack if you are flying a destroyer with 11bn worth of skill injectors….though….

> **[Catalyst | Lanatel | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/131418981/)**
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> Lanatel (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Catalyst in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Elil Win Ray (CHOAYURA) flying in a Apocalypse Navy Issue. Total Value: 10,814,935,859.82 ISK

I got a nice share of the loot !

Quite why anyone would fly 11bn worth of stuff in a ship that could be alpha shot by an Ibis is beyond me. But people do.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/506 "2026-02-02T18:47:31Z")

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> [@Gleb\_Koskov](#):
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> You’re most likely to survive a gank if you fit a warpcore stab instead of humongous amounts of tank, their initial shotcaller is usually the one with a scrambler, the rest using sebos.

_Most_ of the ships in a gank fleet will have a scrambler. No-one knows who is going to arrive first. If the first ship to arrive is not successful, the later ones to arrive will do the job. So a warp core stabiliser is a complete waste of time against any gank attack with more than one ganker. You are far better off fitting inertial stabilisers so you can get the hell out , or past any gate, before the gank fleet arrives.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/507 "2026-02-03T01:44:40Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Don’t you have friends

Nope, not even a individual pilot would ever invite me to fleet

See I just orbit the orca wishing they notice me.

I’m like the buffalo running with the gazelles.

// Update. Wolf had invited me.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/508 "2026-02-03T08:37:15Z")

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To be fair… even if i was stupid enough to fly 14 LSI to/from Jita. There are a few better options to do so and i guess the Catalyst was scanned already at least 2 or 3 systems away.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/509 "2026-02-03T20:02:42Z")

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Going Solo? You Are Not Alone!

Military Campaigns are the most effective way of getting new pilots not HighSec PVP

Resulting in HighSec PVP will become Military Campaigns only and this means you Gankers Too!

Oh Miners are also allowed to Mine for their Military Purpose!

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/510 "2026-02-04T04:14:14Z")

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@Gleb_Koskov look, I had survived many ganks in highsec

There is a strong influence in what a pilot does the moment a catalyst? Warps into your mining belt.

First is to recall or abandon your mining drones then laugh your medium drones , then align towards the ganker and try to get under their guns, even blasters will miss a cycle and thus can be crucial in survival. The point I am pushing here is that to get the catalyst into hull right when Concord lands on grid and a single one shot to end this attempt.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/512 "2026-02-05T23:42:15Z")

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No, neutral pilots (not in the same fleet or corporation) are not allowed to remote repair (RR) ships being ganked in high-sec without immediate consequence. Doing so is considered an illegal act, flagging the neutral repper as a criminal, which will cause CONCORD to destroy their ship.

- **Criminal Act:** Remote repping a target currently under attack by criminals (gankers) flags the repairing ship as a criminal.
- **CONCORD Response:** Because the neutral RR assistance is viewed as illegal in high-sec, CONCORD will intervene against the repairing ship.

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**Author:** ![Vailiina\_Rissanu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vailiina_rissanu/32/502165_2.png) [@Vailiina\_Rissanu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vailiina_Rissanu)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/513 "2026-02-06T02:49:13Z")

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Might be a programming limitation. CCP may not be able to figure out how to get Concord to tell the difference between a ship shooting another ship and a ship repairing another ship. Seems crazy but this is CCP.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/514 "2026-02-06T03:06:51Z")

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Why should you be allowed to interfere in a duel?

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**Author:** ![Vailiina\_Rissanu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vailiina_rissanu/32/502165_2.png) [@Vailiina\_Rissanu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vailiina_Rissanu)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/515 "2026-02-06T03:16:32Z")

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My bad thought this was in reference to just random pvp. If it is a duel using those game mechanics yeah outside forces should not be allowed to mess with it.

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