# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/557 "2026-02-23T04:02:30Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > , the punishments should be consistent and assessed based on the system where the crime So 5 years for killing someone in an 0.5, and then another 5 for every higher security status system? I made a chart to help guide the developers: **Murder in Highsec Punishments Schedule** 0.5 - 5 Years 0.6 - 10 Years 0.7 - 15 Years 0.8 - 20 Years 0.9 - 25 Years 1.0 - Life Will this satisfy you? ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/558 "2026-02-23T04:35:45Z")
No, I’m not, not because it’s about forbidding gankers (as much as I’d like to) from doing what they do, but about creating a system that is fair to every player. Why would your concord standing be repairable with TAGs indefinitely, but my negative faction standing wouldn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/559 "2026-02-23T05:06:24Z")
Because it benefits her. That’s the long and short of it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/560 "2026-02-23T05:21:32Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > You’re the expert in ganking. Indeed. > [@Done25](#): > > it benefits her. This is true. ---
**Author:** ![Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sargon_of_amerish/32/381433_2.png) [@Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sargon_Of_Amerish)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/561 "2026-02-23T06:23:41Z")
![zuzzik6-1024x578](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/6/c769e372b7b64866b164390692bae824615b9be6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/562 "2026-02-23T06:40:01Z")
Please explain why you are losing faction standing while killing people in low sec. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/563 "2026-02-23T12:20:54Z")
That’s a question CCP should address. My other alt is in Minmatar FW, and if you kill others outside of FW, you get a faction standing loss. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/565 "2026-02-23T12:22:26Z")
I’m glad you agree with us ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/566 "2026-02-23T12:25:12Z")
Comment to support your colleagues in Savety? ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/567 "2026-02-23T12:26:03Z")
> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#): > > If people want to lose a 80 million ship on my 10 million venture, I say go for it. My 3 million Miasmos could have 230 million in the hold or nothing at all. These people have no idea how to use a cargo scanner. If a suicide ganker wants to risk losing their bling on my trash in HS, who am I to tell them how to play? > > Do I think it is worth while to gank? Of course not, the challenge in PvP is fighting a desperate battle against incredible odds. Unfortunately that hasn’t happened in this game, I am still waiting. Meanwhile I make my ISK through mining and I bought some virtual clothes with it, some PvE ships, gifts, and do odd contests. > > Have fun! All new bros should copy this guy as he seems to have a good understanding of the game. In the past I took this mentality to the extreme, myself and a few others used to rat as a group in NPC 0.0 using T1 destroyers earning a lot, it was difficult to pin us down due to our speed and bookmarks within an asteroid belt. After a few hours of chasing cheap ships they might get one of us if they are lucky but most of the time we didn’t even have to replace our cheap ships. Too many are putting the isk/yeild per hour ahead of basic safety, forget the per hour nonsense and get a low value ship, be sure to earn more than the ship is worth before it gets destroyed and then slowly increase the amount spent on the cheap as your assets grow. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/568 "2026-02-23T12:49:58Z")
Well, if your Alt is the Minmatar FW that would explain it, but that information wasn’t given by the time im commenting. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/569 "2026-02-23T14:13:20Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > **Murder in Highsec Punishments Schedule** > > 0.5 - 5 Years > 0.6 - 10 Years > 0.7 - 15 Years > 0.8 - 20 Years > 0.9 - 25 Years > 1.0 - Life > > Will this satisfy you? Nooo.. You must be sent to the Klingon penal colony of Rura Penthe, and live on boiled slime worm while you mine dilithium crystals 18 hours a day. ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/570 "2026-02-23T18:11:57Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Pretty much how I feel about hotdropping really. I personally have been dropped on by 15 Redeemers. The ship I was in? A Dominix. You can’t compare hotdropping and suicide ganking. You show up in a Dominix 3-4 systems away from a deployed Rorqual with a mining fleet - you are a direct threat. Of course you are going to get dealt with in the fastest and the most effective way. Ganking targets are not direct threats to anyone. Most of them can’t even fit any offensive modules. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/571 "2026-02-23T18:19:01Z")
For context, this was in our home area. We had an enemy “EVE is my life” multiboxer with 20+ accounts that were logged in 16 hours a day. At all times he would have a 5~6 covert cyno frigates deployed into various systems. It was nearly impossible to do any form of content without getting dropped on by 15 Redeemers. I think hotdropping with capitals, while still a punch down mechanic, is less of a problem because they have to siege in place to to anything. Meaning there’s a chance to counter attack and escalate. Where as black ops battleships can simply warp off, cloak, and then wait to jump back. ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/572 "2026-02-23T18:32:32Z")
A multiboxer with 15 Redeemers is really squishy, since he can’t coordinate them fast enough. He did it in your space because he knew you don’t know how to counter him (judging by your story, he was right). There are many parts of space where he would just be a very juicy target. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/573 "2026-02-23T18:41:29Z")
For clarity I don’t think all fifteen Redeemers were just him. Probably more like 4~5, and the others were sig buddies. But you are right in that more could have been done to punch back. Unfortunately, any time I brought up such a suggestion, it was shot down. Usually by claim that spies would simply tell him about the plan, and thus the bait would be wasted, or they’d simply rage ping for more droppers to N+1 us to death. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/575 "2026-02-24T22:11:36Z")
I would write something meaningful… but it can reduce amount of targets while I’m flying from Jita to home system with a mood to suicide on the way back… and let happy players to loot my T2 modules… and others (maybe not that happy) will study the lesson. Sad that no one is paying for such good lessons, so I’m doing it from my personal wallet, but I hope it helps. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/576 "2026-02-25T12:00:33Z")
Maybe CONCORD should call the local police office to visit that pilot in person? Her/His computer should be confiscated, bank accounts arrested and person should be transferred to the CONCORD owned prison where victim will be able to visit that rude pilot once a week to check that ganker is punished and be sure that no one will touch his 2K EHP ship with 20B in cargo while doing autopilot in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/578 "2026-02-25T12:47:15Z")
> [@Otlichnick](#): > > Too many to count are just 1 guy with alts trashing someone else’s day or week. If losing the ship you have undocked in EVE trashes your day or week then you are doing it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/579 "2026-02-25T12:52:51Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > There really is no target too small for a bored dropper. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/5/7/7575f326945ab5e6c9f21f99b450e454d9f1afef.jpeg "Are you not entertained? #ShadowCartel #eve #eveonline #space #gaming") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9pBFtewhr8) As the vidoe confirms. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=29)