# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/712 "2026-03-14T18:38:32Z")
You must be the smartest in the family. But no, I have to disappoint you; this toon is the only one linked to the Eve forum. Plus, I don’t do mining. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/713 "2026-03-14T18:41:13Z")
Ah then that explains it. You know nothing about this topic. You’re completely ignorant of shield tanking and how easy it is to protect a mining ship. Thanks for finally coming clean. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/714 "2026-03-14T19:34:01Z")
Bold conclusion speedy > **[Gila | Whalecome | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/132928870/)** > > Whalecome (RockFox Tax Shelter Corp) lost their Gila in Seiradih (Domain). Final Blow by Jinx Beirut (Bigbadaboom.) flying in a Coercer. Total Value: 2,384,597,551.45 ISK Aaah, now I get your reaction. Just checking Zkillboard, and you go through the part where you want to kiss your Safety buddies’ butts. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/715 "2026-03-14T20:00:41Z")
LOL, Gila tanked only 12k HP, sounds like a meme. Is it a meta T5 Gila which cost 2B and likely implants on top of it? As for T4 I was doing on passive tanked (with good buffer) one which doesn’t care about ganks as cost around 500M without need for implants and have multiple time more buffer. Maybe just add implants and do T5 on a much cheaper one? So pilot paid with Gila for using incorrect fit and doing it in a wrong place. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/716 "2026-03-14T21:15:34Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > how can you defend a hauler with 1 gun against 10 coercers with 8 guns Join a fleet? ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/717 "2026-03-14T21:26:28Z")
I am sure that you do NOT undock or dock as soon as someone uses their killrights. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/718 "2026-03-14T21:31:48Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > Sorry, but I stopped reading at the first paragraph. The system has been super unbalanced for years, because how can you defend a hauler with 1 gun against 10 coercers with 8 guns? Well….equally sorry, but your endless ignoring of the actual facts makes it clear that it isn’t the game that is unbalanced. It’s you. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/719 "2026-03-14T21:37:07Z")
You mix reality with your wet dreams. I’m good with current one, but you are complaining that game is hard… so take a look at something casual, maybe tetris? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/720 "2026-03-14T21:49:14Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > In addition to that, why do you need to fight back? Concord will jump in and destroy every single one of them for you. All you have to do is survive until Concord arrives. You know that- we’ve all told you that- but you continue to cry and cry and cry. > > Survive the assault for a few seconds- that’s all you have to do. You even know how easy that is and you STILL can’t do it. Precisely. He has an indestructible force come to his aid…..which no-one gets in any other context in the game. Yet he whines about not being able to ‘fight back’ even though he gets assisted by ships with infinite tank that disable ganker ships in a split second. And ALL he has to do is survive long enough for that. But instead he wants to change the entire game mechanic because he can’t be bothered to fit his ship properly. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/721 "2026-03-15T00:55:34Z")
Only because people whine so much. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/722 "2026-03-15T02:32:50Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > I dont how much alts you got, but I dont have anywhere close to defend it against 10 coecers. > [@Namdor](#): > > You’re not supposed to. You’re supposed to avoid getting your hauler into that situation in the first place. I would like to suggest an alternative. Corpmates. You don’t need an army of alts for everything. The best thing about eve, most of the time, is the community. You seem like a friendly fellow. Make friends, Ask for help. Work together. That way, you dont need to out gun anyone. Your corpmates can probably do that, so your job is to survive, to mitigate the risk. Scout, again, friends go a long way in this regard. If you can see that any of the long time, well known ganksters are awake, it is probably not a good idea to bring all your stuff, especially at once. Have reps at hand. You have 3 “hp” bars to get through. fit for tank, have some form of repairing going on. You can survive this. You’ve been through worse, you will go through worse. Lastly, there is a really old saying, “ Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.” For game purposes, this means dont fill your hauler completely full of your most valuable stuff to put on market. If you arent worth the time and effort, you’ve just survived a gank. An isk saved is an isk earned. Nobody gets wealthy by throwing away money, whether in life or a video game. Unless you get isekai’d into one of those manhwa where the more you waste the more overpower super sayan goku 305 you become. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/723 "2026-03-15T02:58:49Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > I dont how much alts you got, but I dont have anywhere close to defend it against 10 coecers. A hauler isn’t supposed to get caught by 10 coercers. You load it into a blockade runner and you fit it to be fast, agile, and able to warp while cloaked. You appear for an instant after gating and you vanish again just as quickly with a warp stabilizer already active. Before they know it, you’re warping off at a speed of over 10AUs per second. Or you buy a good freighter with a tank that can fend off 40 coercers. ![flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/7/e/47eda68654896a42650718c1ef974617991657b8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/724 "2026-03-15T03:24:11Z")
![Screenshot 2026-03-14 222349](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/2/7/a277e21883cc7c4d2f98ad9010b3d60ad7872b52.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/725 "2026-03-15T03:35:18Z")
Tetris was a good game when it came out. Nothing wrong with that. But anyway, I understand that it is annoying when someone makes a statement that could jeopardize your ganking practices. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/726 "2026-03-15T03:36:05Z")
Only nerds who have no social life say that. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/727 "2026-03-15T03:36:56Z")
are you new to the internet? That’s a meme, buddy. Calm down, miner. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/728 "2026-03-15T03:41:19Z")
Im not your buddy pal. And im not a miner. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/729 "2026-03-15T03:43:45Z")
![e04bb224bfdc13a59b55317076578ede6cdeee2f](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/0/4/e04bb224bfdc13a59b55317076578ede6cdeee2f.jpeg) Everyone is a miner, whether you use mining (not) lasers, a gun or a missile. Everything gives minerals. Afterall, even human blood has iron in it. ---
**Author:** ![ImRustY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imrusty/32/487193_2.png) [@ImRustY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ImRustY)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/730 "2026-03-15T03:52:33Z")
You cannot repair in high security once you are attacked. The point of the whole story is that ganking should be punished in the same way as other forms of standing loss. Ganking as a whole will always remain in Eve, but it is unreasonable that security standing can be repaired endlessly with using Tags. I believe that this should be brought to the same level as, for example, a faction standing that needs to be repaired. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/731 "2026-03-15T03:56:24Z")
as I am not a gankster, I only know the surface information on sec standing repair. Does it not take a whole lot of tags to repair? That would indicate a lot of work being done, even if someone else is putting in the effort. Either way, I would like to invite you to my thread, as it is superior in every possible way, to post specifics on what you’d like to see for changes to being a gankster. > [@Vastly more productive High-Sec Ganking thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/vastly-more-productive-high-sec-ganking-thread/508119/94): > > That would be interesting. I’m not sure how viable it would be to force ganksters into FW though. They are providing a service in teaching new players and lazy old players that fitting matters, especially all those folks using ORE Mining lasers. as well as it teaches them that ignoring your surroundings in an inherently hostile environment is a bad thing to do. I would like to suggest a revision to reduce the punishments to a more reasonable proposition. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=36)