# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/814 "2026-03-18T20:24:52Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > You buy some tags and your standing is fixed. I How many tags can you afford? ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/815 "2026-03-18T20:39:32Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > Personally, I think that many players who have been ganked are ashamed to make their story public, because they don’t want players trashing them. As a result, their story never gets heard, and we don’t get any insight into what they actually think about what happened. Thats a real long reach my friend……but i wouldnt know, ive never been ganked so i dont have an amazing story to tell about it. However, im a huge supporter of ganking. No, im not a ganker myself…..i hardly ever get involved with pvp…..its just not for me. Ive been blown up during wardecs. I was inexperienced and didnt know how to fit ships. My attackers convoed me and said good fight and heres what you did wrong. I took that advice and improved. I still got blown up many times…but i learned from each and every experience. Theres my little story…im not ashamed of anything. You can look up this account and see one little tiny ship blown up since 2010. My other account has a bit longer zkill but its also pathetic. i have no shame on that or what anybody thinks about it. This is my fun…this is my little getaway from life. This is my time…..now have a flower. 🌹 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/816 "2026-03-18T21:13:27Z")
> [@ImRustY](#): > > When my alts were ganked for fun, I thought: Why? Um…because blowing up your ships _is_ fun. I mean, the ultimate purpose of having ISK is to buy ships to blow stuff up. That is the end destination of every ISK in EVE. What is the point of mining for ore to get ISK, just to have a pile of ISK ? What is the point of trading stuff just to get a bigger pile of ISK ? EVE is ultimately _all about_ blowing stuff up. That is the end destination of all the mining and industry in EVE……explosions. So the fact that you ask why do people blow up your ship in a PvP game that is all about blowing up ships shows you fundamentally do not understand EVE….a game in which 95% of the ships are blowing stuff up ships. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2026, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/817 "2026-03-18T23:30:45Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > I am pretty sure the only gankers in any of these threads are Aiko and James Fuchs. I’ve lost a catalyst or two to CONCORD. It’s not a full time occupation, but I’m pretty sure I’m a ganker. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/818 "2026-03-24T21:26:49Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > What is the point of mining for ore to get ISK, just to have a pile of ISK ? What is the point of trading stuff just to get a bigger pile of ISK ? Some people like watching ships blow up, some people like acquiring vast sums of wealth or territory. EVE is a sandbox where every player gets to decide what their fun goal is. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/819 "2026-03-24T21:53:03Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I don’t see why you wouldn’t equally survive the level 4 missions too. i honestly find this whole thing funny, because i run 4’s on a typhoon, since it actually has benefits of hitting the smaller ships, which are extremely common in l4’s. I do it at less than 1/3 the cost, i dont have to seige, i spend about the same time doing it and make the same amount of isk. I say i do it in about the same time because, i dont have to rely on drones to kill ships. I’m always there, not afk because i dont play while I’m at work, on someone elses time and dime. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/820 "2026-03-25T02:23:20Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Some people like watching ships blow up, some people like acquiring vast sums of wealth or territory. EVE is a sandbox where every player gets to decide what their fun goal is. ‘Son…what do you want to be when you grow up ?’ ‘Dad….when I grow up I want to spend 16 hours a day watching a mining laser ‘ My fun goal is laughing at this. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/821 "2026-03-25T10:51:09Z")
There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s peaceful. I spend my day solving everyone’s problems. I’m on the phone with vendors and tech support and talking to managers and lab techs. I research to find creative solutions to difficult problems. I then come home and take care of the house, spend time with my wife and cats. When I get time to myself, sitting alone in a room in my comfortable computer chair watching my ship fire lasers at rocks is my chance to unwind and decompress. It’s my choice. It works for me. I enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/822 "2026-03-25T11:20:07Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > 16 hours a day watching a mining laser ‘ Only incompetent miners spend that much time with that. We miners that are much more skilled only watch lasers for 8 hours. 😛 “Passion is like a three piece suit, when im wearing it….i look good” – Darrell Waltrip ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/823 "2026-03-25T15:54:26Z")
Glenduil, when are you going ganking again? ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/824 "2026-03-25T16:30:21Z")
There’s no wrong way to play EVE, and that goes in all directions. @QuakeGod already solved the thread, we all just farming content here… For some reason, some people just want to normalize EVE, normalizing EVE will be the end of EVE. But (and everything after a but is a lie) I also understand miners POV, and I think it’s only fair to give them the tools to fightback, to fight for their lives, to fight for the right to the oil, I mean the ore, I propose ORE CRUISER. ---
**Author:** ![Lala\_Deviluke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lala_deviluke/32/493978_2.png) [@Lala\_Deviluke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lala_Deviluke)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/825 "2026-03-25T18:32:33Z")
Hm… miners are mining their materials (ore, gas, ice, pi, moons, whatever else they need) in nullsec (anyway not highsec). Building there whatever they want and got home def fleets, jump bridges and intel. Miners in high sec - very suspicious… sounds like perverts. Any benefits in mining in highsec with neutrals around? I can imagine only one - you want to play this game alone. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/826 "2026-03-25T18:55:31Z")
Not anytime soon. My corp is moving in a different direction. I’ll be leaving High Sec soon. CCP has finally ruined High Sec to the point of no return. That’s not to say that Null Sec is good- just that the nullbear cave dwellers succeeded in convincing CCP to make High Sec that bad. I used to love HS. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/827 "2026-03-25T19:09:01Z")
> [@Lala\_Deviluke](#): > > Hm… miners are mining their materials (ore, gas, ice, pi, moons, whatever else they need) in nullsec (anyway not highsec). Building there whatever they want and got home def fleets, jump bridges and intel. Miners in high sec - very suspicious… sounds like perverts. Any benefits in mining in highsec with neutrals around? I can imagine only one - you want to play this game alone. Not anymore. There used to be benefits. Now, you have to pretty much PLEX if you want to High Sec properly. I occasionally drop $20 just to PLEX and get 3 billion ISK. It worked for about 2.5 years. High Sec is peaceful. There is actually zero threat from neutrals if you know what you’re doing. Hell, I’ve mined in an ice field multiple times with gankers picking off Hulks right next to me. But The real problem is war decs. I grew tired of replacing Athanors. Defending them doesn’t work. If you bring 10 ships and fight them off, they’ll come back with 20. If you get 50, they’ll get 150. There is no winning anymore. You cannot defend against war decs when it comes to Black Flag and Absolute Order- especially when they join forces against you. Why continue to pay billions in mercenary fees to defend a structure that only cost 2 billion to replace? Why replace it if they’re just going to outspend you to destroy it again? High Sec was successfully ruined for me. CCP did it on purpose because Nullbears ran out of small corps to shoot at and would not stop throwing tantrums. I’ve been in enough war decs that I’ve lost count. It’s not sustainable. Ganking doesn’t hurt High Sec. War Decs do. So I’m going to buy a fleet of Ventures, pack up a few cloaked ships, and head to the worst gaming environment I’ve ever played in- Null sec… well, 2nd worse now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lala\_Deviluke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lala_deviluke/32/493978_2.png) [@Lala\_Deviluke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lala_Deviluke)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/828 "2026-03-25T20:13:38Z")
I see. Make sense if you have your structures and business there. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/829 "2026-03-25T20:41:38Z")
An Athanor means moon mining. It’s more than just business. Moon mining was the only profitable action left in HS, but they found a way to take that away too. I honestly believe that nullbears lie awake all night terrified to go to sleep for fear of nightmares about HS players making any kind of income. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/830 "2026-03-25T21:01:59Z")
Can’t you just base out of NPC stations, use the orca to compress, and either cloak trick or skill into jump freighter to move your highsec ores into a low/null refinery? AO dare not go there. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/831 "2026-03-25T21:05:25Z")
Moon mining. It’s all about the moon ore. It’s better than Ice. > [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > AO dare not go there. This isn’t true. I’ve personally seen them take over a thousand ships to one of their fortizars in Null. They have a Keepstar. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/832 "2026-03-25T21:11:55Z")
Oh, you can’t compress the moon goo? I guess you’ll just have to hunt AO then. I recommend ganking them until they bugger off. Chat with them. Offer to talk with them on discord whenever you can. Record _everything_ so you can report these nazis to CCP and get them banned. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/833 "2026-03-25T21:22:09Z")
> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > Oh, you can’t compress the moon goo? No, you cant compress that in an npc station. > [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > Offer to talk with them on discord whenever you can. Record _everything_ so you can report these nazis to CCP and get them banned. Weve tried this on a much smaller scale and these folks cant be negotiated with. Theyre like a swarm of locust in this game. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=39) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=41)