# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/834 "2026-03-25T21:29:16Z")

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I’m not saying to negotiate with them. Obviously you can’t negotiate with a fascist. I’m saying get them on comms, and record everything. Report racism, sexism etc to CCP. Few nazis are able to keep the mask on for more than a couple minutes.

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/835 "2026-03-25T21:34:54Z")

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> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#):
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> I’m not saying to negotiate with them. Obviously you can’t negotiate with a fascist. I’m saying get them on comms, and record everything. Report racism, sexism etc to CCP. Few nazis are able to keep the mask on for more than a couple minutes.

I understand. Im not part of the officer core of our corp so i have no say so. I just know of whats happening because they do share info on what they do about stuff like this. i dont know if theyve talked to anybody on coms but i will certainly pass the recommendation.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/836 "2026-03-25T21:36:29Z")

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War eligibility was a huge mistake.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/837 "2026-03-25T21:45:25Z")

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> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#):
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> Oh, you can’t compress the moon goo?

ah yes you can compress moon goo. I’m only a few days away from having the skills to compress moon goo in a Rorqual. Not that I’ll be buying one. I just ran out of skills I wanted to train.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/838 "2026-03-25T21:59:24Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Not that I’ll be buying one. I just ran out of skills I wanted to train.

I would have just started training jump drives or something to extract SP.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/839 "2026-03-25T22:10:01Z")

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Already did that.

I have a Level 4 mastery on the Sin and I’m 27 days away from Level 5 mastery on the Ansher. I can cyno jump at max range. 🤷

At one point, I was asked to train all that up so we could go Black Opping and then it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Lala\_Deviluke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lala_deviluke/32/493978_2.png) [@Lala\_Deviluke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lala_Deviluke)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/840 "2026-03-25T23:33:14Z")

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I don’t know. WH was the most profitable thing for me even before this alt was created (lived there when WH was introduced). And looks like it is good this days too. So I do not know who dreams about what this days as if I would prefer ISK, I would go WH. But no clue what I need ISK for… maybe mothership, but then I have to go WH for easy money or do boring abyssal.

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**Author:** ![Shan\_Talasha\_Mea\_Questa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shan_talasha_mea_questa/32/481844_2.png) [@Shan\_Talasha\_Mea\_Questa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shan_Talasha_Mea_Questa)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/841 "2026-04-06T11:56:52Z")

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Paper is fine, nerf rock.

\* Scissors

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**Author:** ![Lala\_Deviluke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lala_deviluke/32/493978_2.png) [@Lala\_Deviluke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lala_Deviluke)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/842 "2026-04-13T18:04:52Z")

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Low risk? just look at his high slots! Don’t tell me that ganking is a low risk… he got so many and so big guns… [Avalanche | Every One | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/134629335/)

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/843 "2026-06-02T05:18:21Z")

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It is zero risk because the gankers make 100 times more than what they lost.

Now, if the gankers flew around in high sec looking for PVP fights with their -10 status and were in Deimos, thats a different story involving risk.

Such a scenario would never happen though because NPC’s would show up to the fight beside the Capsuleers trying to gank the gankers.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/844 "2026-06-02T09:57:28Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Not anytime soon. My corp is moving in a different direction. I’ll be leaving High Sec soon. CCP has finally ruined High Sec to the point of no return.
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> That’s not to say that Null Sec is good- just that the nullbear cave dwellers succeeded in convincing CCP to make High Sec that bad. I used to love HS.

Highsec _has_ been ruined. It has become boringly safe…ironically at the same time as all the cry-babies whine about it all the more. Even in just the past 4 years it has changed a lot. Dodixie used to be full of gankers. These days hours go by with none at all. And I can recall when you’d be guaranteed to meet a suspect even on a trip from Oipo to Uedama…whereas these days you can literally fly all the way from Jita to Amarr and not encounter a single suspect !

I’m increasingly moving my ships to lowsec. I figure that rather than fearing those solo players with 30,000 kills…I’ll become one of them.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/845 "2026-06-02T10:03:47Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Now, if the gankers flew around in high sec looking for PVP fights with their -10 status and were in Deimos, thats a different story involving risk.

I regularly fly around highsec in my 1300 DPS Deimos…looking for non-existent suspects…lol.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/846 "2026-06-02T10:14:55Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> I regularly fly around highsec in my 1300 DPS Deimos…looking for non-existent suspects…lol.

Just drop a ‘Packrat’ mobile tractor unit and wait… Sobaseki is a good system for this.

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**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/847 "2026-06-02T10:24:44Z")

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HEy, look, there was a time, when also MARAUDERS could be tanked up to between 400K and 800( EHP… it was called the 100% PLATE BONUS, snd it was the ONLY THING that actively WORKED in saving our xxx (if we were lucky)… I Guess Economy hasn’t COLLAPSED to the point to give Marauders that bonus back…

Bowhead is a very good freighter, but I cannot ship 2M TON of ORE with it… maybe the ORCA would??? General Freighters are generally specialized so they can be filled with whatever…

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**Author:** ![bdk\_eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdk_eve/32/498378_2.png) [@bdk\_eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bdk_eve)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/848 "2026-06-02T11:55:17Z")

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@Namdor

Seems like ganking tag is not applied consistently

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/b/3/7b329ba500fdae53cc7945d537867d4f9e1c2f75.png)

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**Author:** ![bdk\_eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdk_eve/32/498378_2.png) [@bdk\_eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bdk_eve)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/849 "2026-06-02T11:57:49Z")

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No gank tag

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/0/1b05db6f71075664bde9cd847728e0bdb1651576.png)

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/850 "2026-06-02T12:00:01Z")

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So a fan built website’s automatic labelling of a complex kill condition is unreliable.

I don’t see anything interesting in that.

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**Author:** ![bdk\_eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdk_eve/32/498378_2.png) [@bdk\_eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bdk_eve)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/851 "2026-06-02T12:01:54Z")

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This post seems misleading considering Zkill does not appear to record ganks properly

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/4/1941b0d4bc9ab33f52f0e862c74778787af14116.png)

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**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/852 "2026-06-02T12:05:19Z")

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I guess it is, a bit, but in the absence of better data, and with the corroboration of anecdotal evidence from those of us who’ve been playing 10+ years, I’d say it was reasonably correct.

i.e. we can assume that ZKill has always been as bad at labelling ganks and thus has always labelled the same proportion of them, thus while the true number maybe higher the trend is the same.

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**Author:** ![bdk\_eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdk_eve/32/498378_2.png) [@bdk\_eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bdk_eve)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2026, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/853 "2026-06-02T12:05:58Z")

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