# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/916 "2026-07-01T05:37:37Z")
It’s not a coincidence that the majority of ganks occur in 0.5 to 0.6 space. Most gank groups don’t have enough pilots to go after tankier targets in 0.7-0.9 space, as it would require upwards of 25+ stealth bombers and result in a loss on any passive tanked ships with \<1 billion ISK in modules. Gankers can’t generally operate at a loss indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/917 "2026-07-01T07:12:41Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > It’s not a coincidence that the majority of ganks occur in 0.5 to 0.6 space. What is your intention sharing this information? To me it comes across as: “It’s not a coincidence that a chain breaks at the weakest link” “It’s not a coincidence that a river treads out of it’s bounds at the lowest bank” or in EVE terms: “It’s not a coincidence that a refiner refines at the structure with the highest refining bonuses” Yes… that is not a coincidence. But what’s the point? What are you trying to tell us, that gankers too care about efficiency? Is this a surprise? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/918 "2026-07-01T07:13:42Z")
Most rain falls from the sky! ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/919 "2026-07-01T07:40:24Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What is your intention sharing this information? That the risk of getting ganked in high-sec is highly exaggerated. The reason gankers primarily hunt in 0.5 and 0.6 space is so they can get away with ganking larger targets with relatively small (\<10 member) gangs. These small gangs will usually bounce off most passive fits. Outside of Uedama and Jita, there are few if any gank groups that regularly bring 40+ gank ships against a single target. So Jita is the one 0,9 exception to this rule. I’m still trying to find any properly fit passive-tanked Marauders that have been killed (0.5-0.9 security). They’re almost all paper-thin/active tanks. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/920 "2026-07-01T07:43:33Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Most rain falls from the sky! I was trying to figure out why you had so many corvette losses to CONCORD and then it occurred to me that you’re drawing CONCORD away in those systems… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/921 "2026-07-01T07:47:53Z")
I would never! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/922 "2026-07-01T07:50:29Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > drawing CONCORD away Sounds like an exploit. 🤔 😈 😏 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/923 "2026-07-01T07:52:14Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Sounds like an exploit. Yeah, we should probably ban it, lol. 🍿 Having CONCORD spawned somewhere else in that system incurs an additional ~+35% delay. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/924 "2026-07-01T08:02:42Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I’m still trying to find any properly fit passive-tanked Marauders that have been killed So what you are saying, is that Marauders need a nerf? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/925 "2026-07-01T08:22:57Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So what you are saying, is that Marauders need a nerf? Shield/armor/hull bonuses… toast, MJD … toast, active rep bonus … nerfed, bastion cycle … nerfed, Vargur … nerfed. Probably forgot something, but basically the FC nerf bat has “Marauder” printed down the side. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/926 "2026-07-01T16:56:24Z")
It doesn’t matter how many nerfs they already had. What matters is that you yourself said: > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I’m still trying to find any properly fit passive-tanked Marauders that have been killed Clearly, more nerfs are needed so that properly fit ships also die. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/927 "2026-07-01T17:56:36Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Clearly, more nerfs are needed so that properly fit ships also die. No, we just need to get the word out on how to properly fit your ships in high-sec. And start hunting you bandits… 😎 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/928 "2026-07-01T19:03:00Z")
nO, **PLEASE** , don’t hunt me in your marauder!!! 😨 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/929 "2026-07-01T19:03:44Z")
Hey, you gankers may have just inspired me to change my play style… 🏴‍☠️ I’m not saying that I’m “gunning” for you… not yet. But maybe soon… ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/930 "2026-07-01T19:53:34Z")
waste of time/ ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/931 "2026-07-01T20:01:03Z")
> [@Distaine](#): > > The unfortunate part about all this is that ganking is the ONLY form of pvp left for all to do after other forms have been systematically reduced to about nothing. Let’s say I empathize and we take this comment at face value. Don’t you think that low-sec bears the most responsibility for destroying PvP content in high-sec and low-sec? Low-sec was given the keys to a Ferrari and they treated it like a lawnmower. By perma gate-camping entrances from high-sec into low-sec and literally shooting anything that moves - they effectively relegated players to high-sec. Players remained in high-sec and sought-out new income opportunities, joined the blob in null-sec or ventured out into wormhole space. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/932 "2026-07-01T20:03:49Z")
* * * waste of time/ * * * ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/933 "2026-07-01T20:04:34Z")
Sure, let’s talk about high-sec. What “PvP” opportunities have been removed from high-sec? We were talking about PvP - yes? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/934 "2026-07-01T20:11:14Z")
The largest alternative legal PvP opportunity in HS space used to be wars. But with the introduction of ‘war-immune corporations’ the amount of players that are immune to that form of PvP has become pretty huge. I think it has been a nice idea to make certain corporations immune to wars so that players aren’t forced to stay in NPC corps to have that effect. But I honestly think it would be better if FCCP had added the default NPC tax to any war-immune corporation so that players have a meaningful choice between being war-immune or being tax-immune, and not both. That way we’d probably see more PvP-eligible players in HS than today. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2026, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/935 "2026-07-01T20:13:11Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > The largest alternative legal PvP opportunity in HS space used to be wars. The largest **abusive** PvP mechanics in high-sec used to be wars. You can blame null-sec **completely** for this. I can’t remember the exact numbers than CCP referenced at the time, but it was something like 85% of all high-sec wardecs were being done by a single alliance - and the top 5 number of wardecs were all by null-sec. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=44) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=46)