# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/987 "2026-07-03T19:14:34Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I don’t think CSM candidates should be exempted from PvP. And Aiko doubles down, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/988 "2026-07-03T19:15:01Z")
I’ll triple down if you like. Mike doesn’t even need the Bowhead. He can hand out other people’s frigates in Jita, without ever undocking. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/989 "2026-07-03T19:15:28Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’ll triple down if you like. Don’t stop now - you’re on a roll… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/990 "2026-07-03T19:16:19Z")
Besides, he already stated that simps will reimburse his Bowhead. He didn’t lose anything. So why shouldn’t we kill it? Clearly, he doesn’t care enough to scout or take basic precautions, but if you want to enable him feel free to send isk. Our agreement is that I will receive 15% of the donations he receives between now and December. So I heartily encourage everyone to contribute! ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/991 "2026-07-03T19:24:35Z")
![pexels-photo-10794163](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/9/e/19e9d269c17a419fb4a864140929d29a182676ba.avif) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/992 "2026-07-03T19:41:43Z")
Try wearing glasses and your pilot might not be ganked as much. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/993 "2026-07-03T20:23:43Z")
> [@Anabella\_Rella](#): > > I’d love to hear some of the usual gankster posters defend this attack on someone who does so much for the game and for new players in particular. What’s wrong with destroying Mike’s ship in this PvP game where people destroy anyone’s ship if they get the chance? I mean, Mike is a good guy and has always been on my CSM ballot, but I too would shoot his ship if he happened to be where I’m looking to shoot ships. I just think that chance is small as he’s flying his Bowhead in HS and I usually fly in NS, but nevertheless I don’t see why anyone should be exempt of PvP in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/994 "2026-07-03T20:39:28Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I don’t see why anyone should be exempt of PvP in this game. I’m not suggesting that the Magic School Bus should be exempt. But there was no profit in this gank - just pure spite. And killing off all the new players (or those that help them) just proves how stupid many players are. Just like in the real world, only coyotes will inherit EVE after all the players are gone… ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/995 "2026-07-03T21:36:42Z")
It should be obvious to many that anyone that holds somewhat of a more famous and well known notch in this game will always be even more sought after…then shot and blown up. Why would anyone expect anything different. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/996 "2026-07-03T21:48:03Z")
My heart contains nothing but spiteful contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/997 "2026-07-03T22:23:58Z")
> [@Anabella\_Rella](#): > > I’d love to hear some of the usual gankster posters defend this attack on someone who does so much for the game and for new players in particular. What sort of defense do you imagine is required for allowed behavior? > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > But there was no profit in this gank - just pure spite I think it was probably more like “shits and giggles” or “for the lulz” than anything that could be accurately described as “spite”. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/998 "2026-07-04T00:48:14Z")
Every day that I consider giving gankers a break… I’m given one more reason why red safety should be banned (and gankers along with it) from high-sec. On the plus side, I was able to gleam a few more groups to add to my blacklist. Yes Aiko, including you and your black heart. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/999 "2026-07-04T01:42:50Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I’m not suggesting that the Magic School Bus should be exempt. But there was no profit in this gank - just pure spite. And killing off all the new players (or those that help them) just proves how stupid many players are. Just because it’s an unprofitable kill doesn’t mean they are exempt of PvP. It just removes one (out of many) motivations to destroy the ship, and thus reduces the chance your ship gets destroyed. It’s good advice to reduce risk, not a guarantee you won’t get attacked. People can still attack you for other reasons, such as practice, fun, boredom, having a nice killmail or a corpse collection. It wouldn’t be the first time I attacked someone in particular for my corpse collection because I recognized them. I feel like you’re very judgmental about people who don’t play EVE in the way you like. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1000 "2026-07-04T03:05:28Z")
I’m really getting to the point where I just don’t care anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1001 "2026-07-04T04:14:08Z")
Do that! I think it could be wonderful and a freeing experience if you stopped caring about what ships gankers attack! I’ve been doing the same and can recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1002 "2026-07-04T04:23:38Z")
I only care that they attack someone else, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1003 "2026-07-04T04:30:16Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I only care that they attack someone else, lol. Oh that’s how it’s going to be hey? We understand now! Never mind the Magic School Bus going down the pipeline heading back from a long day’s journey on delivering ships to Rookie Systems! No worries Mate! We all know now! ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1004 "2026-07-04T04:38:15Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Never mind the Magic School Bus going down the pipeline heading back from a long day’s journey on delivering ships to Rookie Systems! It sounds like Mike doesn’t really care and was already reimbursed (several times over, apparently), so why should it bother me? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1005 "2026-07-04T15:06:12Z")
I personally would never gank Mike. As a professional ganker, you have to recognize the deeper psychological layers of deeply seated pain and torment that any EVE Online player experiences. Mike is in a perpetual state of torment because he is forced by his good conscience to fly a terribly slow magical school bus across the entire galaxy, every day of his life. If I destroy Mike’s schoolbus, then I am not maximizing the suffering that Mike will experience over an infinite timescale. Therefore, to truly painmaxx, Mike must be allowed to continue his daily slog without disturbance. @Mike_Azariah I sent you a small donation for your next school bus. May you fly in ever eternal safety!! 😘 With caring regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1006 "2026-07-04T16:43:35Z")
I have never asked for protection for the Bus. I am a firm believer in the pvp aspect of the game and the chances that one takes in undocking. I know that this is odd to some of you but I do not multibox or even HAVE a second account that is Omega. @Aiko_Danuja while I enjoy joking and teasing please do not tell falsehoods about the Bus paying gankers. The Bus flies on its reputation as much as it does on donations. m [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=47) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=49)