# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1048 "2026-08-11T12:57:24Z")
Ganking is only really for folk who have that weird obsession with their killboard.l, (or others for that matter) It’s like bragging about what size your farm is on FarmVille . I could brag about my wallet , I chose not to for the same reason I choose not to care about folks killboards, because it’s just numbers on a screen 🤷🏻‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1049 "2026-08-11T13:15:29Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Ganking is only really for folk who have that weird obsession with their killboard.l, (or others for that matter) Does this mean that you assume nobody would gank if killmails and zkillboard did not exist? Because I doubt that this assumption is correct. Some gankers may be in it for killmails, but others may be in it for the thrill, for the loot, for the reactions or just for the fun of shooting spaceships, rather than for killmails. > [@kage1982](#): > > I could brag about my wallet , I chose not to You just did. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1050 "2026-08-11T14:40:25Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Ganking is only really for folk who have that weird obsession with their killboard Ganking is PvP. EVE is a PvP game. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1051 "2026-08-11T15:08:50Z")
I think the wardec system could be expanded and improved on. And not necessarily from a “legal way to attack gankers” aspect. I think small corps (and small corps only) should have the ability to wage limited war on similarly-sized corporations. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1052 "2026-08-11T17:30:15Z")
I think miners should be war eligible. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1053 "2026-08-11T18:01:32Z")
You know that I did propose actual mining permits to achieve just what you’re suggesting, yes? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1054 "2026-08-12T00:46:36Z")
I already sell actual mining permits. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1055 "2026-08-12T04:50:05Z")
Yeah, but they don’t make miners go suspect like my suggestion would… Just think: all the pros of killing miners without any of the downsides… ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1056 "2026-08-12T11:03:44Z")
That implies suffering CONCORDOKEN is somehow a downside. Have you ever done it? It’s quite good fun really. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1057 "2026-08-12T13:33:59Z")
Does this mean suicide ganking is not _real_ PvP? 🤔 😏 😈 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1058 "2026-08-12T13:53:31Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I already sell actual mining permits. Still sounds like scam even if it’s true.. 🤔 … You need to improve your marketing skill.. 😅 Use the word like “I don’t gank miners with permits” instead of" I’ll kill all the miners".. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1059 "2026-08-12T14:35:09Z")
You can fix this whole topic just by shuffling a few words around. The suicide ganking risk is way too low, change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1060 "2026-08-12T14:45:00Z")
I remember being a bit disappointed to not see one gank attempt on my mining ship in my first weeks in EVE. I was paying attention to local and my overview and all, while reading up on the game on the side. Or at least I thought I did. Bored I eventually looked for more dangerous space and went to live in null sec. There I too tried to mine and pay attention, yet imnlmediately lost a few ships to enemies and learned about things like cloaks. In hindsight I realized that I would never have seen a gank attempt in HS: killing newbies where I was mining in Arnon is prohibited. I didn’t know that. Hopefully Exordium makes this ‘newbie protection’ a lot clearer, and brings more excitement to the players who choose to leave it. Not that I mind not being ganked, moving to null has been a good choice anyway for me. I like the lack of NPC laws. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1061 "2026-08-12T19:37:06Z")
Not in High sec it isnt, get over it and go back to 0.0 ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1062 "2026-08-12T19:38:46Z")
I quote Bruce Lee "Boards don’t hit back ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1063 "2026-08-12T19:41:25Z")
Sure you do lol I sell Unicorns and Flying carpets . Smells more like you sell fertiliser to me 💩 ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1064 "2026-08-12T19:52:05Z")
Some and in some I mean most are obsessed by KB and KM its sad. I guess some folk need to find an outlet for their frustration, i know one ganker had all the toilets in the kingdom named after him, must be a hard life 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1067 "2026-08-13T05:49:33Z")
A new player getting ganked in high-sec can also end up thinking: “I can’t mine, haul, explore or undock without someone deleting me". Even old player who was ganked can find that this is not balanced. Just rinsed SS with tags and ready to wipe out some specific ships (not for profit, pvp ships are cheap even with T2 fit). From my point of view this is even worse as there is no counterplay (except “do not be away of gate/dock more than 2km”). They can’t take revenge… no such mechanics (kill right is a joke). ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1068 "2026-08-13T12:10:37Z")
A new player getting ganked can learn in 1 day how not to get ganked. He is often even _told_ by the ganker what he did wrong and it is absolutely easy to avoid being a target. That has absolutely nothing to do with being wardecced and attacked by blingships the attacker never loses, permanently camping you in and following you around with locator agents. ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1069 "2026-08-13T12:48:33Z")
No comments, this is your personal experience when pilot don’t want to avoid wardec but can skip ganks… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=50) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497.md?page=52)