# Suicide ganking is way too low risk, change my mind **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497 "2025-10-01T01:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1070 "2026-08-13T12:53:13Z")
Yeah, because one is absolutely easy, the other one was almost impossible back then. That is why CCP changed it. ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1071 "2026-08-13T13:01:32Z")
Switch corp or space is the hardest one ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1072 "2026-08-13T15:13:46Z")
There are a few things you can do. Flashy red/yellow can’t tether anymore. Scan down Their safe spots and, warp in and smartbomb the lot in a BC (it’s hilarious) . That said I get for new and existing players it’s a negative off putting experience. Sadly the only way the griefers learn is when the game shuts down due to players leaving for better experiences elsewhere. The whole “you should be playing like I do” is just control freak tendencies seeping out into the non real world. If the game didn’t have set spaces for PVP and Non PvP activities then griefers would have a valid argument, but Eve does have set spaces, some folk just can’t stand the idea that there are people who dont want to play with them and would rather avoid them in game and in RL. We are sadly waiting on these John’s and a James’s of the world to get that idea into their heads. If it comes to the point that too many players leave due to these interactions causing the game to shut down I guess CCP will only have themselves to blame. I hope it doesn’t come to that but who knows . ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1073 "2026-08-13T15:30:21Z")
So basically “doing wrong” encompassing having a good PVE fitting is just like saying “you can’t have nice things”. The problem with that is people want nice things, there’s nothing wrong with that . So why can’t you accept them having a nicely fitted ship ? I mean yeah if someone flys a “bling ship” into low or Null they are fair game but high sec nah. Shows a lot about RL tendencies tbh being the kid who breaks the other kids new toy out of jealousy that you don’t have one of your own , of scratching the flash car with a key because you have to take the bus. There are more people in “bling ships” than griefers, if these people all leave the game it shuts down due to lack of players. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1074 "2026-08-13T15:44:04Z")
I don’t judge anyone for flying a blingship in HS. Let them. But them putting a big fat crosshair on their backs is simply logical in a full loot PvP game. If you want to be an awful target, fly non-blingy, mobile, with lots of eHP. You can’t have both: blinging your toy out to the death and flying unchallenged by gankers. Make a choice. If you can’t do that because you somehow believe “but I have every right to fly totally blingy in HS and everyone should leave me alone!!!1111” - you simply picked the wrong game to play. There are single player titles that allow you to do exactly that. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1075 "2026-08-13T16:13:51Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Shows a lot about RL tendencies tbh being the kid who breaks the other kids new toy out of jealousy that you don’t have one of your own , of scratching the flash car with a key because you have to take the bus. It’s a game. A better comparison would be that I block your longest road in a game like Catan, or that I take your Knight with one of my pieces in a game of Chess. By playing EVE you’ve chosen to play a competitive game and people can block you or take your pieces as part of that game. There also are cooperative games, sometimes it’s more fun to play those games if you’re not in the mood for backstabbing or other competition. > [@kage1982](#): > > I mean yeah if someone flys a “bling ship” into low or Null they are fair game but high sec nah. Anyone who flies a bling ship is fair game. I usually don’t fly bling ships because of that, it’s cheaper and more effective to keep the ship cost-efficient. But sometimes flying bling can be fun, so I won’t tell you you shouldn’t do that, just that if you do so you’re going to get chased in this competitive game you decided to play. > [@kage1982](#): > > So why can’t you accept them having a nicely fitted ship ? People love it when others have nicely fitted ships. And if you fly well you may even get to keep the nicely fitted ship! ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1076 "2026-08-13T16:44:17Z")
After having sat on a gate for multiple hours im not sure id agree, annoying yes; i mean who doesnt want to ap 10bil around in a frigate and not get popped… ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1077 "2026-08-13T17:00:47Z")
See this is what it boils down to, “it’s a PVP game”. Does PvP exist in eve ? Yes Does unrestricted PVP exist in all areas of Eve ? - nope. Are there specific areas designated for PvP play ? - Yes low sec , null, pochev , WH. Is high sec a place for PVP? - only with a war dec. anything else just go to the 4 places above instead. Greedy child syndrome from griefers , they want it all. They will kill their own game to get it ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1078 "2026-08-13T17:02:53Z")
“You picked the wrong game” hmmm you best hope that not a lot of people come to that conclusion or that’s it no more eve they will all leave. more accurately - you picked the wrong place to PvP 🤷🏻‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1079 "2026-08-13T17:18:50Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Is high sec a place for PVP? - only with a war dec. You are wrong here, which makes every conclusion you pull out of that null and void. And if you insist on it, it’s a waste of time to keep debating with you. Ganking always was a part of HS gameplay and it is _intentional_ in the game, made this way by the developers. If they had wanted to stop it, they could do it with the snip of a finger. But they _don’t want to stop it_. So, accept that gankers are using a valid gameplay method to force PvP on others, or go look for another game. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1080 "2026-08-13T17:22:52Z")
So you freely admit you are forcing something on someone? Should that not tell you it’s not right ? could they fix it ? Or is it more that doing so now would cause grater issues? Remember Greifers are a minority, if you all quit tomorrow the game would go on ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1081 "2026-08-13T17:27:48Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Should that not tell you it’s not right ? It’s part of the game, like taking pieces in a match of chess or shooting someone in a round of Battle Royal. Get used to it. They will - of course - not remove it, else they could have done in the last 20 years with ease. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1082 "2026-08-13T17:42:13Z")
When I hear a Dev actually state they wont or cant remove it ill believe you , but right now your bias is showing ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1083 "2026-08-13T17:59:34Z")
Devs recently added this helpful reminder: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/f/0/4f0ad9609200569c1c4cc18ee633e524a604ff9c.png) Note what it mentions and what it doesn’t. The part of space where there are no attacks against you is another part of space, also with a newly added reminder: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/7/1/f71ae82274387f8fb10f7a3443610576b3da2eaa.png) Go fly your bling ship in safety in Exordium if you don’t want to run the risk of ‘illegal attacks’, which in high sec very intentionally are part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1084 "2026-08-13T18:27:26Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > So you freely admit you are forcing something on someone? The very act of undocking is the act of _agreeing_ to PvP. It is your signature on the agreement. Thereafter, nobody needs your ‘consent’. You already consented. That is how EVE is and has always been. If you cannot accept that, then EVE is the wrong game for you and you should go play Farmville. Oh…and can I have all your stuff. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1085 "2026-08-13T18:35:00Z")
Yawn , typical grifer tripe ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1086 "2026-08-13T18:43:09Z")
It’s a delusional ego problem. People get ganked and can’t handle the reality that it’s because of their own incompetence. So they have to create a myth of UNFAIR PLANE. The idea that what happened was legitimate gameplay would imply that they are bad at the game. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1087 "2026-08-13T18:45:38Z")
You talking about “delusional ego problem” is hilarious, but then i guess id be upset if every toilet in the game got named after me so meh We should demand a permit for such hypocrisy ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1088 "2026-08-13T18:51:54Z")
After your recent warning, I suggest you stop trying to talk to me. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-ganking-is-way-too-low-risk-change-my-mind/498497/1089 "2026-08-13T19:08:06Z")
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