# Suicide in highsec, senseless and merciless **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [April 26, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409 "2025-04-26T16:17:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/402 "2025-06-07T23:28:51Z")
> [@Strom\_Kryos](#): > > War decs should still be viable even in Hi Sec… for those that are looking to opt out, you only need to join an NPC corp during that time… and join back to your holding corp when it’s over. There was no need to ever change how war decs worked. If you are working with deployed structures and don’t have the protection or isk to support a war then you shouldn’t deploy it. That’s coming from someone who thinks Hi Sec should be more secure. I would rather deal with war decs in high sec than 0 effort, anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play. I just returned to EVE after a 4 year break and within the 1st week I’m ready to quit again. There’s less high-sec corps than ever and more gankers running around than ever. I don’t want to deal with the time and effort it takes to move out to null and if I try doing anything productive in high-sec I’m basically just painting a target on my back. Even if I hold a ton of nostalgia for EVE, it ain’t the early-mid 2000s anymore. Other space games (that don’t charge $20/month) exist. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/403 "2025-06-08T00:23:48Z")
> [@Duality107](#): > > I would rather deal with war decs in high sec than 0 effort, anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play. There’s less high-sec corps than ever and more gankers running around than ever. There are actually more hi sec corps as they are no longer being war dec’ed into oblivion. There is also a lot of counter play to ganking, which occurs prior to the actual gank, a large part of that is getting away from population centers. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/404 "2025-06-08T01:26:41Z")
> [@Duality107](#): > > anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play There is plenty of counter play. Aren’t you a veteran player? Have you even tried to counter ganking? All you have to do is survive for a few seconds. You can’t do that? ---
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/405 "2025-06-08T02:44:49Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > There is plenty of counter play. Aren’t you a veteran player? Have you even tried to counter ganking? All you have to do is survive for a few seconds. You can’t do that? A more appropriate kind of counter-play would be disabling the ability to buy standing, restricting docking in higher security systems for people with negative standing, and forcing gankers to actually base up in some low sec system, actually put some thought into their logistics and fits before performing raids into high-sec. If gankers are permanently -5.0, as they should be, then players have an opportunity to setup gate camps at known ganker entry points in high-sec systems. Or create hunting parties to try intercepting an active ganker fleet. But I’m sure my argument will fall on deaf ears as many others have before, because the reality is that high sec gankers were never particularly interested in actual PvP where anyone is afforded an opportunity to fight back. The only difference between an F1 mining carebear and an F1 cata ganker is that the mining player’s fun doesn’t come at someone else’s expense. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/406 "2025-06-08T10:30:25Z")
I see why you quit. You are not ready for Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Molea\_Enjoyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molea_enjoyer/32/449451_2.png) [@Molea\_Enjoyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molea_Enjoyer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/407 "2025-06-09T14:32:42Z")
There is already a nerf to ganking since the legion release. You have to wait for next year. Nerfs to ganking happen on yearly basis. It is too early for complains. ---
**Author:** ![Strom\_Kryos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/strom_kryos/32/453483_2.png) [@Strom\_Kryos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strom_Kryos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/408 "2025-07-02T06:42:14Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > the only one either. There was once a reddit post complaining that corps would just anchor a whole new structure before the original one had even been destroyed. There aren’t any drawbacks to tha Right… it’s a transaction. If you can’t replace or protect it… in the end it’s about being able to recoup the cost. ---
**Author:** ![Strom\_Kryos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/strom_kryos/32/453483_2.png) [@Strom\_Kryos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strom_Kryos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/409 "2025-07-02T06:46:07Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Don’t try to fool anyone. If there was no need, CCP wouldn’t have changed it. They noticed how many players left the game over it and it simply hurt their wallets hard enough to finally remove this mechanic, which was to 99% used as a griefing tool by experienced players to cheaply kill newbies. And it was absolutely _obvious_ that this crap wasn’t benefitial to the game _at all_. BS… all they had to do was jump to another corp or NPC corp. Newbs and anyone else had an easy way out and those that did the wardec were out the isk, and more if they tried to trail them into another corp. Simple solution of hide the infrastructure shell game. ---
**Author:** ![Strom\_Kryos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/strom_kryos/32/453483_2.png) [@Strom\_Kryos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Strom_Kryos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/410 "2025-07-02T06:59:31Z")
Played for 10 years… I quit too It is no longer the Eve Online of the past… just a dumpster fire. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/411 "2025-07-02T07:41:43Z")
> [@Strom\_Kryos](#): > > ll they had to do was jump to another corp or NPC corp Uh, guess what, Players new to the game simply _didn’t enjoy_ to leave their corp every second week and hide in an NPC Corp instead of trying to create something togeher with their friends online. Just because some griefers had nothing better to do than simply wardec newbies over and over again to easily farm kills against players who hadn’t even the slightest chance to fight back. And thus they left the game and played something else. Bad for CCP, since they wanted to make some money with their product. Wise decision to end this crap, as the player retention numbers surely proved, else they would probably have reverted the change by now. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/412 "2025-07-03T13:51:01Z")
The use of the word suicide is no longer accepted. The use of the word suicide is an immediate turnoff off for prospective new players and does actually affect CCP’s marketing. The correct word is ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/413 "2025-07-03T15:12:37Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > The correct word is ganking. `CONCORD assisted PvP` or `CONCORD protected PvP` 🤔 :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/414 "2025-07-03T15:25:36Z")
Isn’t “rapid unscheduled disassembly” the new defacto standard in space travel? I was told this is a thing. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/415 "2025-07-03T16:33:35Z")
That’s a catch phrase that Musk uses when one of his rockets blows up. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/416 "2025-07-03T18:19:58Z")
Gang Killing? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/417 "2025-10-01T18:20:10Z")
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