# Suicide in highsec, senseless and merciless

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**Created:** [April 26, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409 "2025-04-26T16:17:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suicide-in-highsec-senseless-and-merciless/484409/39 "2025-04-27T01:09:10Z")

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Thank you for your replies, both of them. I did misunderstand your position, as the translation expressed it, on morality and security status.

However, this:

> [@Paul\_Keres](#):
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> I don’t like the suicidal crowds hanging around the trade hub in Zhita. It’s supposed to be the safest place in the game, but it’s actually the most dangerous.

reminded me of a post written on these forums in 2019. It is still in my opinion the best explanation of why “high security” does not equal “safety” in EVE. So, I going to post a link here:

> [@Securing High Security Space](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/securing-high-security-space/195546/7):
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> Exactly this. Let me use an example I like to try and explain the difference between the two. Lets say you are at your friends back-yard BBQ, probably no bouncers or cops around, no security of any sort really except what you and your friends can provide. but despite that you are PROBABLY about as safe there as you can be while out in public. sure someone might get drunk and throw a punch but thats about the worst of it. No security, but High safety despite that. Next lets take the neighborh…

And for those that won’t click the link, the relevant paragraphs in Mr. Tyrson’s argument/explanation:

_Lastly lets take the busiest night-club in the city, lets even say they are having some big special event. They probably have teams of bouncers, everyone going into the club is getting pat-down at the door, hell they may even have some actual cops on duty just to make sure everything goes smoothly. about as high security as you can possibly get at a social function, but also the greatest likelyhood that SOMETHING is gonna happen, probably at least a couple fights during the night, some phones are gonna get stolen, the bathroom is gonna have more drugs go through it than a pharmacy. So high security, but also the lowest safety out of these examples._

_Point being, the highest security does not directly translate to the highest levels of safety. (Incidentally, thats also why null-sec is generally one of the safest places in eve, because even though its got the lowest “security” its the back-yard bbq style example, except you and all of your friends are packing world-shattering doomsday weapons)_

That post and the paragraphs quoted were written by @Bjorn_Tyrson .

I still take my hat off to him for that piece of writing.

Jita is EVE’s “night-club”.

As Mr. Tyrson expressed, and you stated Jita (Zhita) is the most dangerous, despite it’s 0.9 status. Jita, EVE’s busiest system, reflects real life in this regard.

And, I have no problem with that, given that player piracy is a supported, and intended, game play.

While I do not share your opinion, I have a better understanding of your position.

Thank you.

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