# \[Summer 2019\] New Pirate Implant Sets **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Created:** [April 1, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867 "2019-04-01T15:02:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Osat\_Bartlett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/osat_bartlett/32/387350_2.png) [@Osat\_Bartlett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Osat_Bartlett)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/83 "2019-09-11T03:11:02Z")
Mimesis new implant set was introduced yesterday. And I found one question. Mimesis implants have a penalty as tertiary effect. It’s explained in description “ **-33%** _penarty to damege multiplier increase per cycle_”, but in attributes “_Damage Multiplier Bonus Per Cycle Modifier :_ **-0.33%** ”. Which is the CCP’s intended value? I calculated both case. If -33% is true, total damage amount while a turret shots 500 charges is almost unchanged from amount of the case of without implants. If -0.33% is true, Damage Multiplier Bonus Per Cycle is almost unchanged so it’s just like it has no penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Kadesh\_Priestess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadesh_priestess/32/467993_2.png) [@Kadesh\_Priestess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadesh_Priestess)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/84 "2019-09-11T15:16:27Z")
This is base value, which gets multiplied by secondary set effects, like on any other set. Net set effect is the following: +43.1% max spoolup bonus -6% to spoolup damage increase When you apply it to some trig hull without spoolup bonus, it means: +6.38% time to reach old spoolup cap +53-54% time to reach new spoolup cap +25.9% dps bonus at new spoolup cap Mimesis break-even point for total damage output is approximately 130-135% of no-set spoolup time. It means that if you shoot single target less than that, mimesis is worse than no set at all, if you shoot it longer - it’s better. For instance, for quite expensive leshak (very good rolls on damage mods, 5% rof implant) it translates into 140 seconds. For ikitursa and nergal numbers are different. ---
**Author:** ![Osat\_Bartlett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/osat_bartlett/32/387350_2.png) [@Osat\_Bartlett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Osat_Bartlett)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/85 "2019-09-12T04:52:41Z")
Mimesis set is a worth implants, I know. I think -0.33% penalty is applied in TQ. But, I didn’t want to point out its worth. I just wanted to say, “-0.33% penalty is meaningless”, “-33% penalty is too severe” and “which is the typo -0.33% or -33%” ---
**Author:** ![Kadesh\_Priestess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadesh_priestess/32/467993_2.png) [@Kadesh\_Priestess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadesh_Priestess)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/86 "2019-09-12T06:21:08Z")
edit: nvm, understood what you are trying to say. Indeed there’s a typo, -33% should be -0.33%. ---
**Author:** ![Kei\_Hazard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kei_hazard/32/245509_2.png) [@Kei\_Hazard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kei_Hazard)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/87 "2019-09-12T08:08:45Z")
0.33 is the correct value and the 1.2 “Set bonus” also apply to this penalty. The end result is around 6%, turning 5% per round to 4.7% per round. I’ve made a set with blueprint from DED. Ah I think I replied to the wrong person. ---
**Author:** ![Osat\_Bartlett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/osat_bartlett/32/387350_2.png) [@Osat\_Bartlett](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Osat_Bartlett)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/88 "2019-09-13T02:14:21Z")
Though it is written that “increase **secondary** effect 20%”, in fact it apply to tertiary effect too, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Kadesh\_Priestess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kadesh_priestess/32/467993_2.png) [@Kadesh\_Priestess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kadesh_Priestess)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/89 "2019-09-13T10:37:32Z")
Correct. And this is intended, as far as I understand. Description is just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Kei\_Hazard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kei_hazard/32/245509_2.png) [@Kei\_Hazard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kei_Hazard)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/90 "2019-09-16T00:58:17Z")
> [@Kadesh\_Priestess](#): > > Correct. And this is intended, as far as I understand. Description is just wrong. This. Confirmed by someone who responsed to my bug report ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/91 "2019-09-18T07:27:33Z")
Why announce this if it was never going to happen. I would say I’m surprised, but this is ccp! ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/92 "2019-09-18T10:36:22Z")
Maybe CCP finally got some common sense and sees how bad shield slaves would be for the game? ---
**Author:** ![Kei\_Hazard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kei_hazard/32/245509_2.png) [@Kei\_Hazard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kei_Hazard)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/93 "2019-09-19T02:25:49Z")
Dear CCP Summer is almost over now. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/94 "2019-09-22T09:20:46Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Maybe CCP finally got some common sense and sees how bad shield slaves would be for the game? Aww Tipa, imagine you live in a class 6 pulsar and have a Wyvern to defend it… LOL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/95 "2019-09-26T00:36:10Z")
¿What happened? ---
**Author:** ![Karaka\_Sasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karaka_sasen/32/145762_2.png) [@Karaka\_Sasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karaka_Sasen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/96 "2019-09-27T13:15:41Z")
So, Summers over, Where are the Implants at, Or is this just classic CCP ? ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/97 "2019-09-28T22:39:08Z")
Mmmmm, Slaves… Yeah, I like those Slave Implants for shield. ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/98 "2019-10-02T23:22:05Z")
Ccp just wanted to change the name of slaves to amulets. ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/99 "2019-10-07T22:01:26Z")
> [@Karaka\_Sasen](#): > > So, Summers over, Where are the Implants at, Or is this just classic CCP ? They were just having a laff, buy some skins instead m8 (get them while stocks last) ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/100 "2019-10-14T15:05:58Z")
> [@Karaka\_Sasen](#): > > So, Summers over, Where are the Implants at, Or is this just classic CCP ? _Maybe_ they meant Summer here (which officially kicks off in Dec), so now, winter has ended, and we can all look forward to Shield Implants in the summer (still)! Though I fear this is just one more item that’s been added to the ‘we’ll iterate on that’ bin 😑 Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/101 "2019-10-26T04:18:06Z")
> [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](#): > > Though I fear this is just one more item that’s been added to the ‘we’ll iterate on that’ bin Anyone have a full list of those? I know there’s Angel Cartel capitals, Shield Slave implants, and some ship redesigns, but nothing beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summer-2019-new-pirate-implant-sets/149867/102 "2019-10-26T06:15:04Z")
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