# Summon The Swarm - Now Live! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [October 19, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170 "2021-10-19T11:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Death\_Killer21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/death_killer21/32/484373_2.png) [@Death\_Killer21](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Death_Killer21)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/43 "2021-10-22T17:03:39Z")
My biggest issue is that the risk does not provide the reward, And the fact you can only run 3 in one day per toon… thats something that makes them not worth it. Another fail release ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/44 "2021-10-22T18:10:03Z")
The disgusting mess CCP has created in lowsec with this is … well a new low. Vile. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/45 "2021-10-22T21:57:08Z")
Care to elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/46 "2021-10-23T07:02:30Z")
I dont understand whats to elaborate. Its what this event is, krabbing caps like bloated cows sitting in swarms. ---
**Author:** ![Irridan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/irridan/32/423856_2.png) [@Irridan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Irridan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/47 "2021-10-23T08:05:11Z")
Some ideas to make it work - Remove beacon from overview. - Make it scannable. - DENY entry to BC and lower. or - tweak drone AI to focus small hulls This will stop blobing kiki/cormorant fleets from swarming over and add a small safe window to capiral ship inside. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/48 "2021-10-23T09:07:30Z")
I wasn’t challenging you. I was just curious if there was something going on with these things that I wasn’t aware of. Of course, after reading your response, I’m now left with another question -how is that a new low? I mean, was there not already a bunch of krabbers doing krab things in LS before the event? Plus, isn’t it more content for whalers? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/49 "2021-10-23T09:22:14Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > how is that a new low? I mean, was there not already a bunch of krabbers doing krab things in LS before the event? Plus, isn’t it more content for whalers? Now theres even more and if thats so where are these whalers? If it was remotely dangerous there wouldnt be swarms of untouched caps. ---
**Author:** ![Gheorghe\_Kreskova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gheorghe_kreskova/32/245273_2.png) [@Gheorghe\_Kreskova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gheorghe_Kreskova)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/50 "2021-10-23T18:20:43Z")
I do not believe that you are even active in the game anymore. Let alone fully understand what is at stake. Stop trolling, and provide real feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/51 "2021-10-25T09:14:53Z")
> [@Gheorghe\_Kreskova](#): > > I do not believe that you are even active in the game anymore. Your belief is unfounded, irrellevent and wrong. > [@Gheorghe\_Kreskova](#): > > provide real feedback. I am, just because you dont like it doesnt mean I cant express it. Dont you have important krabbing to do in your whale? ---
**Author:** ![Isabella\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isabella_echerie/32/343813_2.png) [@Isabella\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isabella_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/52 "2021-10-26T09:55:10Z")
Actual feedback: I ran 6 beacons so far. Received 1.351 bil in Loot ignoring mutaplasmids that I rolled having all of them negative rolls except a single one which had almost everything green. This takes into account 480 Took in total ~3h in a ship that deals 6000 DPS which comes down to 337mil / h roughly although 1 ESS was stolen from me which is to be expected considering it drove them up to 300mil+. Also what is about those blue loot buy quantities being 112 while you have after 1 beacon up to like 1200? For comparison: With my setup of 3 Ishtars and a Carrier I make roughly 400mil/h with less risk and a far less expensive setup. Even considering the cost of the extra accounts the price difference in ships puts me to 30-40bil free to spend on omega. In conclusion: The sites are bad. Really bad. I don’t see why anyone would do them considering the far higher risk and only low chance to get a good drop which I am still to see. Edit: I ran the sites in a 130%+ BRM system so the numbers above are inflated. Most likely it is more like 250-300mil/h. Also selling those blue loot items is pure pain as you sell them 112 at a time so you sit there for quite a while. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/53 "2021-10-26T15:39:13Z")
I suppose the above does show better what vileness this ■■■■ is. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/54 "2021-10-26T18:43:21Z")
Maybe CCP will sell Summon The Swarm Payout Multipliers in the CA$H shop. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/55 "2021-10-27T16:58:30Z")
Well, a week after release, @Brisc_Rubal is it ok to talk about these yet? Cuz they ain’t doing well. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/56 "2021-10-27T17:02:57Z")
Sure. I expect we’ll see some changes based on the first week or so. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/57 "2021-10-27T17:08:31Z")
What kind of changes do you think they’ll make? Most of the complaints I’ve seen come down to it not making enough money for what’s at risk, and sometimes not even making enough money to cover the beacon’s build cost, or complaints about only being able to run 3/d per capital pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/58 "2021-10-27T17:35:55Z")
The complaints I’ve seen have been along the same lines, and I have told them both before these launched and after that if the rewards aren’t sufficient to justify the use they’ll have to increase them. I don’t think they can really argue against doing that at this point, so that’s what I expect to see. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/59 "2021-10-27T19:13:06Z")
Do you know if they’ve given any thought to using the shiny not-really-new-anymore Diamond Rat escalation system they installed on the pirate sotiyos that let them evaluate what you brought, and meet it with commensurate force? And if they have, _why not just use that in all ratting anoms and be done with it_? If they haven’t… can you suggest it, maybe? At least mention that they _have_ this tool that might be useful, and even solve their little problem of scaling? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/60 "2021-10-27T19:42:53Z")
Sure, I’ll suggest it. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/61 "2021-10-27T20:04:33Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170/62 "2021-10-28T10:49:42Z")
> [@](#): > > We thank you for your patience and cooperation while we work on removing ~~this unintended behaviour from~~ the CRAB gameplay. Thank you @CCP [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/summon-the-swarm-now-live/333170.md?page=4)