# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/445 "2020-04-07T15:54:07Z")
> [@Brother\_Iron](#): > > You realize that super capitals already have maintenance costs right… fighters that die easily, heavy water for projectors, isotopes for any sort of real movement (yes we can gate, but it takes forever) Those costs are negligible, and are not incurred for maintaining a dozen titans in my hangar while I wait for the right situation for a specific one. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/448 "2020-04-07T15:55:00Z")
Well, then you’re not using _synonymous_ correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/449 "2020-04-07T15:55:04Z")
> [@Quadra\_Storm](#): > > because 10+ guys jumping a freighter or mining vessel is so incredibly skillful and not at all cowardly… Correct, you should try it. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/451 "2020-04-07T15:55:37Z")
> [@CCP\_Rattati](#): > > In many such cases, the challenge has been solved Exactly: **Watch video, copy moves, get paid** ---
**Author:** ![Aleverette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aleverette/32/268038_2.png) [@Aleverette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aleverette)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/452 "2020-04-07T15:56:17Z")
Then you should bring back suspect timer for Tier 5 Abyssals to harvest true tear ---
**Author:** ![Ignisilion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ignisilion/32/192881_2.png) [@Ignisilion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ignisilion)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/454 "2020-04-07T15:56:52Z")
Why not? I am talking about lowsec choke systems owners gatecamps? Because ships are blown it does not means there is more gameplay will occur. ---
**Author:** ![H3llHound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/h3llhound/32/187173_2.png) [@H3llHound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/H3llHound)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/455 "2020-04-07T15:56:56Z")
@CCP_Dopamine Could you clarify if this is a 20% absolute reduction or a relative one? Example: The T2 EM Ward gives a 55% resist bonus. Will it be 35% after the change or 55%\*0.8= 44% Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Bigdaddyme\_Seventyseven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigdaddyme_seventyseven/32/196399_2.png) [@Bigdaddyme\_Seventyseven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bigdaddyme_Seventyseven)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/456 "2020-04-07T15:57:12Z")
False … The premise of EVE was always to be able to play how you want … PVE, PVP, or Industry … That was the whole draw of the game … You want straight PVP, buy COD … ---
**Author:** ![Nindae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nindae/32/297544_2.png) [@Nindae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nindae)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/457 "2020-04-07T15:57:30Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > It wouldn’t really surprise me if they already had characters on the market selling items for ISK that were not player-built or looted. I mean if you buy a ship and it comes from someone called “Bob the Jita alt”, you really can’t tell whether that’s an actual player anyway. EVE has been losing players for a while, and eventually a purely player run market will become unsustainable if they keep pushing out PvE players and industrialists. As they are pushing the traders and industrialist off the game, that is the logical course to take. And it can hide they trade the ships for real money via plex trade. One CCP bot can buy plex for isk, second can sell computer generated ships for those isk. Goal achieved, microtransactions in place. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/459 "2020-04-07T15:57:48Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Removing supercapital support tubes is a great change that immediately makes regular carriers useful and provides them with the role capability they were lacking. Getting Aeons and Wyverns in line fighter bay size wise means they won’t be laughed at in fleets anymore. 👆THIS on both points. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/460 "2020-04-07T15:57:53Z")
T1 industrials need a rebalance, I’d like to see them have expanded combat capability, eg a mammoth or bestower with an substantial HP improvement and weapon slots. I’m not saying close to the level of Transport ships, but something more respectable. ---
**Author:** ![Gethsemene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gethsemene/32/182431_2.png) [@Gethsemene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gethsemene)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/461 "2020-04-07T15:58:00Z")
Well, anyone playing pve just had their lives made more difficult for no apparent reason ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/462 "2020-04-07T15:58:24Z")
I wish that CCP would quit having the habit where any perceived “solution” to a game problem results in actually causing further problems by having a much stronger impact on areas outside of what is their stated goal. CCP always seems to penalize the smaller/less powerful groups , while stating they are trying to target far more powerful/larger player blocs. Rarely seen worse corporate aim; up there with Fallout 76’s disaster. Only hope they make any and all needed reversals following a few weeks of data and review, but imagine it will probably run the same course as us waiting year after year for quality WD changes. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/463 "2020-04-07T15:59:05Z")
Anyone playing PVE should fleet up and work together as part of a team. This is an MMO. There is too much solo gameplay going on in EVE and not enough fleeting, esp in Hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/464 "2020-04-07T15:59:18Z")
Given your reply, I have no more faith in CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Quadra\_Storm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quadra_storm/32/246813_2.png) [@Quadra\_Storm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quadra_Storm)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/465 "2020-04-07T15:59:31Z")
“Quadrant 2” - and then the big nerf of “Surgical Strike”. Who plans this stuff at CCP? Why not just state what it really is: “ISK Sink 2” and “Surgical ISK Sink”. > Catalyst is the new Dreadnought meta > Fly Paper-jets against Trigs and in DeadSpace > “It’s a PvP game”. Yeah, pity the player-owned economy driving the game needs mining, manufacture, PvE, and ISK to buy stuff and underpin the entire economy. So, no - it’s not a PvP only game. If it were - the economy would collapse and the game with it. Now we’ll all just focus on HS → 100 000 Catalysts vs. 10 mining ships and some freighters. Sounds like a plan… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/466 "2020-04-07T16:00:04Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > I don’t see it as a nerf to actual industrial players. Maybe crafting things has became a bit more annoying, but that, with a supposed increase in “lost ship rates”, should translate into “everything you produce now sell for a higher price” in the long run. > > It might be a nerf for someone who just mine while watching Netflix and never actually play, but I’m pretty sure an invested and clever industrial player can actually see this situation as a buff for him. As an industrialists: I see it is a big buff to my activities. Also miners from my corp see it as buff to theirs, as it will increase ore prices. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/467 "2020-04-07T16:00:27Z")
if thats the case, then why add Trigs, or abyss, or what seems like closing off hisec from null? ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/468 "2020-04-07T16:00:35Z")
Cant wait to fit up a 1000 dps hecate Those will be fun. Broken, but fun. ---
**Author:** ![Aleverette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aleverette/32/268038_2.png) [@Aleverette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aleverette)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/469 "2020-04-07T16:00:47Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > Removing supercapital support tubes is a great change that immediately makes regular carriers useful and provides them with the role capability they were lacking. Only if Cenobite and Scarab are not completely useless M’Lord [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=20)