# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/714 "2020-04-07T17:58:39Z")
> [@Bigdaddyme\_Seventyseven](#): > > Some of us play to mine and do industry … First yall screw us on that by nerfing ores and now yall are making it harder on us by increasing the possibility of being ganked thanks to lower resistances Sure. As industrialists I welcome these changes with open arms. Mining is also going to get a lot more profitable. > [@Bigdaddyme\_Seventyseven](#): > > Not to mention, even in PVE, yall are basically making tier 4 missions and ratting nearly impossible with these changes, especially for solo players L4 missions will still be very much possible for solo players, not expecting this to change from small resist nerf. ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_andrard/32/411951_2.png) [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/715 "2020-04-07T17:58:52Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > You will loose about 10% or your total EHP after the update. > > So now, think about yourself, doing this mission. Think about your HP. > > Cut 10% of it. > > Most of the time, did it force you to warp-out? > > Most likely not. I have a battleship with 51894 EHP, following your reasoning, I will lose about 10%, which is rough 5000 points, this will lower my EHP to 45000 EHP, it seems a lot to me. Probably I will not have to warp out to finish some missions, but I will for sure go closer to the ship’s limits, and this is psychologically annoying. That’s not to talk about missions against Guristas and their damned missiles that do a lot of damage… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/718 "2020-04-07T17:59:47Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > EVE was modeled on Elite, a space trading and combat simulator, and was built as a sandbox with multiple valid playstyles. I’m saying they should keep to that. But that already exists. Elite Dangerous is exactly that. The things that make EvE DIFFERENT from ED are what should be fostered, not aligning to their wide but shallow experience where player agency has very very little meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/721 "2020-04-07T18:01:12Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > 20% of -55% is -11%. it’s 0.2×-55% = -11 ppc . Don’t use % when you talk about a % difference. ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_andrard/32/411951_2.png) [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/723 "2020-04-07T18:02:03Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > L4 missions will still be very much possible for solo players, not expecting this to change from small resist nerf. Lose 10% EHP is a small nerf for you? ON my battleship with 51894 EHP it will means go down to 45000 it’s a huge nerf ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/724 "2020-04-07T18:02:30Z")
Yeah, that’s legit. Fingers got ahead of brain. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/725 "2020-04-07T18:02:31Z")
you don’t lose 10% EHP. ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_andrard/32/411951_2.png) [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/726 "2020-04-07T18:03:11Z")
Can you please explain? ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/727 "2020-04-07T18:03:16Z")
> [@CCP\_Rattati](#): > > One of the specific stated goals was to align high reward PVE and its relative risk with other activities in EVE. > > In many such cases, the challenge has been solved, and we think that its time to issue a new challenge to players doing those activities. > > We have faith in you!. Good. I have already managed to earn 200M/h running L4 in hisec… and I don’t even do burners! anythign that brings these numbers more in line with risk is good in my book. Also congratz on all the salt you harvested 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/728 "2020-04-07T18:03:46Z")
> [@Corvus\_Andrard](#): > > Can you please explain? can you explain why you lose 10% EHP ? I’ll explain you why you are wrong. An invul right now is -30%. that means your EHP (for shield only is) is ×100/(100-30) = 143% right now. with the change, an invul goes from -30% to -0.8×30 = -24%. Therefore your EHP becomes ×100/(100-24) = 131.6% You go from 143 to 131% EHP on the shield : that’s a reduction of EHP by 7.9%. So your total EHP is reduced by less than 7.9% since the other forms of EHP are not changed. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/729 "2020-04-07T18:04:28Z")
> [@Corvus\_Andrard](#): > > Lose 10% EHP is a small nerf for you? ON my battleship with 51894 EHP it will means go down to 45000 it’s a huge nerf And you missed that buff of 10% _HP_ on BS as well? Either way it is good… you will make isk only once you learn how to fly. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitenn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaitenn/32/414623_2.png) [@Kaitenn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaitenn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/730 "2020-04-07T18:04:38Z")
@CCP_Dopamine very good patch but for resist i’m not sure 🙂 > It is possible you see for up the gameplay gate camp example up the scan resolution in all frigate and destroyer and possibility to counter the cloak ship because is very safe and you use the cloak trip mwd+cloak is so hard to catch him and moving fast with cloak ( i use cynbal and darevil for decloak is very very complicate for catch explo and pve boys) or create a item deployable on the gate and is have 50 km range is not possible to active the cloak 😉 > create a objectif sup for more reward (trophy) for pvp for the people is interest to the pvp. exemple : you kill 50 guys +100sp, , 10 kill in solo you receive 50sp and… other question : i see you buff the bs, why you not create a new battleship command ship is possible very cool for more fleet bs in eve, because the meta in eve cruiser t2 ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_andrard/32/411951_2.png) [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/734 "2020-04-07T18:08:17Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > And you missed that buff of 10% _HP_ on BS as well? > > Either way it is good… you will make isk only once you learn how to fly. This kind of mentality is really irritating, you all think you are the keepers of the real Eve, and that Eve was made only for you and all the people who don’t play as you think it has to be played should not play at all. Well, I pay exactly like you, Eve is a sandbox and I have the right to play as I want, so don’t come to me to say I have to learn to fly, thake your bullshits on carebears for you. ---
**Author:** ![Kevin\_Towlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kevin_towlyn/32/196432_2.png) [@Kevin\_Towlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kevin_Towlyn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/737 "2020-04-07T18:09:11Z")
the last time you nerfed supers ccp lost 15,000 subscribers, stop nerfing the game and find better way to kill stuff. screwing miners in null sec sucks too nothing to do out here anymore ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Andrard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_andrard/32/411951_2.png) [@Corvus\_Andrard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Andrard)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/738 "2020-04-07T18:09:20Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > an you explain why you lose 10% EHP ? I’ll explain you why you are wrong. > > An invul right now is -30%. that means your EHP (for shield only is) is ×100/(100-30) = 143% right now. > with the change, an invul goes from -30% to -0.8×30 = -24%. Therefore your EHP becomes ×100/(100-24) = 131.6% > You go from 143 to 131% EHP on the shield : that’s a reduction of EHP by 7.9%. So your total EHP is reduced by less than 7.9% since the other forms of EHP are not changed. Ok I understand, thank you ---
**Author:** ![Quadra\_Storm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quadra_storm/32/246813_2.png) [@Quadra\_Storm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quadra_Storm)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/739 "2020-04-07T18:10:25Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > 40K+ online last Sunday. > > EvE is dying /s Lets see post Covid lockdown. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/740 "2020-04-07T18:10:35Z")
> [@Nindae](#): > > As they are pushing the traders and industrialist off the game, that is the logical course to take Just where exactly are traders and industrialists being pushed out off the game? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/742 "2020-04-07T18:10:57Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > So because ED now eixsts, CCP should move EVE away from it’s core design principles Thats literally the opposite of my position. I guess you just dont agree what those core design elements are. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/743 "2020-04-07T18:11:43Z")
And rigs are not modules, so as far as we know, not impacted by this. ---
**Author:** ![Jenn\_aSide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenn_aside/32/384682_2.png) [@Jenn\_aSide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenn_aSide)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/744 "2020-04-07T18:13:05Z")
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