# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Ray\_P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ray_p/32/196489_2.png) [@Ray\_P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ray_P)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/906 "2020-04-07T22:07:48Z")
it’s meta imposed and they’ve just changed the meta ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/907 "2020-04-07T22:08:29Z")
> [@Ray\_P](#): > > it’s meta imposed Yeah, no. It really isn’t. Again, this isn’t something CCP needs to address. ---
**Author:** ![Risa\_Pappotte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/risa_pappotte/32/288343_2.png) [@Risa\_Pappotte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Risa_Pappotte)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/908 "2020-04-07T22:01:41Z")
So, the devs and the mods didn’t get the supportive response to these upcoming changes on April 15, so they locked the thread, go figure. These changes are not going to have the effect CCP invasions it is going to kill brawl fighting and make everyone turn into a bunch of kitey risk adverse pansies asses. Everything these changes bring will make Amarr and Gallente ships get mothballed, because no way is an armor ship ever going to be kitey unless you give them a huge bonus to afterburner/mwd. Rather than nerf the the mods put a negative resist effect to all capital ships and reduce the bonus to remote repair faxes get and make it so they can only fit capital remote repair mods that can only be used on capital ships and repairable structures. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/909 "2020-04-07T22:11:24Z")
> [@Risa\_Pappotte](#): > > because no way is an armor ship ever going to be kitey Retribution says hello. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/910 "2020-04-07T22:11:32Z")
oh my goodness - another round up nerfs and reductions that you call enhancements. ---
**Author:** ![SCORPIO\_SICARIO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorpio_sicario/32/273811_2.png) [@SCORPIO\_SICARIO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SCORPIO_SICARIO)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/911 "2020-04-07T22:11:44Z")
> [@Risa\_Pappotte](#): > > So, the devs and the mods didn’t get the supportive response to these upcoming changes on April 15, so they locked the thread, go figure. > > These changes are not going to have the effect CCP invasions it is going to kill brawl fighting and make everyone turn into a bunch of kitey risk adverse pansies asses. > > Everything these changes bring will make Amarr and Gallente ships get mothballed, because no way is an armor ship ever going to be kitey unless you give them a huge bonus to afterburner/mwd. Rather than nerf the the mods put a negative resist effect to all capital ships and reduce the bonus to remote repair faxes get and make it so they can only fit capital remote repair mods that can only be used on capital ships and repairable structures. That would require a lot of extensive work to rebalance each and every capital ship clearly CCP doesn’t want to do that, they want an easy simple solution which is to nerf all the hardeners. I hope more people like me vote with their wallets to let CCP know how bad this decision is. ---
**Author:** ![LiuNiclole\_Davout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liuniclole_davout/32/185017_2.png) [@LiuNiclole\_Davout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LiuNiclole_Davout)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/912 "2020-04-07T22:13:05Z")
I find it so precious that the people who brought the game to the present state now are insisting they are yet again the ones to fix it. They always use the magic word “Rebalancing”. I’ve been through 10+ years of Rebalancing, and the player base is STILL down and I can’t imagine how a new player can compete except like roaches on the rain forest floor. ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/913 "2020-04-07T22:13:07Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > > [@DragoFire](#): > > > > the sad thing is this 20% resistance **balance** will kill newbie player game play. > > > > > they hardly afford to factional modules and most don’t have the skills to fit T2, as it most of their resistance tank fits are weak to start with, and now CCP/BP are throwing a 20% reduction on these poor buggers! > > You’ve misread the entire dev blog if you think it’s a 20% reduction on resistances. from the opening of the dev log: > this update is a 20% reduction in the power of all modules that increase shield or armor resistances. That means energized plating, armor coating, armor hardeners, shield hardeners and shield resistance amps. This will lead to a **drop across the board in effective hit points** , but the more slots a ship has devoted to resists. it’s pretty clear it stated resistance, not power requirements. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/914 "2020-04-07T22:14:13Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > it’s pretty clear it stated resistance, not power requirements. …god you’re thick in the head. This is why I’m so glad CCP has the brains to filter out meaningless whining from garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Syllable\_Whar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syllable_whar/32/486909_2.png) [@Syllable\_Whar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syllable_Whar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/915 "2020-04-07T22:14:57Z")
I was going to write a long post about how the last thing most of us need is to be more vulnerable to the mulibox gankers but i realized i can just save my breath and do what i did in 2012 and uninstall eve. omega time end in a week or so, summer is almost here. maybe ill pop back in when winter hits, by then maybe the dust will settle and things will even out. although it would be nice if they stopped using us as a beta test team with all these constant back and forth across the board experiments. dont you guys have a test server smdh ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/916 "2020-04-07T22:16:27Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > > [@DragoFire](#): > > > > it’s pretty clear it stated resistance, not power requirements. > > …god you’re thick in the head. This is why I’m so glad CCP has the brains to filter out meaningless whining from garbage. pull your head out of your own asse and read the topic and dev log correctly, or isn’t english your first lanuage? > [@CCP\_Dopamine](#): > > The 20% reduction applies to all shield and resistance modules in the game, not only capitals. how does power requirement reduction affect EHP??? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/917 "2020-04-07T22:16:33Z")
I swear someone showed me hardener tieracide changes and included in that was an Adaptive invuln II with 32% resists…but no i can’t find it. Anyways the math adds up. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/918 "2020-04-07T22:17:09Z")
> [@Risa\_Pappotte](#): > > So, the devs and the mods didn’t get the supportive response to these upcoming changes on April 15, so they locked the thread, go figure. Looks more like they ‘locked’ it because there was already an official feedback thread, so they merged your whine-thread into it. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/919 "2020-04-07T22:19:19Z")
There it is. > [@\[incoming\] shield hardeners tiericide](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incoming-shield-hardeners-tiericide/227727): > > Seems nobody talked about it, so : [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/fo996p/sisi\_shield\_hardener\_tiericide/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/fo996p/sisi_shield_hardener_tiericide/) general buff of the hardeners. invuls : (T2, meta) are given 2.5 ppc of resist(meta=29, T2=32.5). domination and posse are given T2 resist value. enduring has increase cycle and reduced activation. fields : meta resist set to 52.5(+2.5ppc). domination is given T2 resists(55%) and reduced CPU, CN and GCT resists becomes 56.25 enduring is INCREASED CYCLE as well as reduced cons… ---
**Author:** ![SCORPIO\_SICARIO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorpio_sicario/32/273811_2.png) [@SCORPIO\_SICARIO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SCORPIO_SICARIO)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/920 "2020-04-07T22:19:51Z")
> [@Syllable\_Whar](#): > > I was going to write a long post about how the last thing most of us need is to be more vulnerable to the mulibox gankers but i realized i can just save my breath and do what i did in 2012 and uninstall eve. omega time end in a week or so, summer is almost here. maybe ill pop back in when winter hits, by then maybe the dust will settle and things will even out. although it would be nice if they stopped using us as a beta test team with all these constant back and forth across the board experiments. dont you guys have a test server smdh Thank you for voting with your wallet hopefully enough people do so and make CCP realize that they do not only have one type of player that plays their game but a multitude of players that engages in other activity besides PVP! ---
**Author:** ![Marexlovox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marexlovox/32/184469_2.png) [@Marexlovox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marexlovox)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/921 "2020-04-07T22:19:56Z")
Twitch versus Eve has shown that you can’t or don’t play your own game, perfect time to unsub ya just keep screwing up over and over again… You guys got problems over there, and the player count will hurt because of this —\> Translated to PAYER count… ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/922 "2020-04-07T22:20:27Z")
yip that will drop to 24% across the board, 6% loose. ---
**Author:** ![Risa\_Pappotte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/risa_pappotte/32/288343_2.png) [@Risa\_Pappotte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Risa_Pappotte)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/923 "2020-04-07T22:20:33Z")
I’m seriously going to consider that, since they keep making changes and have some kind of day dreamy way of thinking on how the changes are going to go; that makes absolutely no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Grug\_Pootawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grug_pootawn/32/316716_2.png) [@Grug\_Pootawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grug_Pootawn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/924 "2020-04-07T22:20:38Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > how does power requirement reduction affect EHP??? your density puts osmium to shame they mean the power of the module as in the resists it provides, NOT the powergrid it needs to be fitted ---
**Author:** ![Aleverette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aleverette/32/268038_2.png) [@Aleverette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aleverette)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/925 "2020-04-07T22:22:10Z")
They were buffed to 32% on SISI And the post-nerf number is also based on SISI You could check Hoboleak, SISI revision 1689009-1691977 ![无标题](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/8/2849e340bcbcabccadbfc880543a9913f8cba69e.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=37) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=39)