# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1110 "2020-04-08T03:21:57Z")

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Too late. My 3 acct’s are unsubbed…

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**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1111 "2020-04-08T03:22:36Z")

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Right proper choice.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1112 "2020-04-08T03:24:16Z")

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A very sad and very hard choice.

On the bright side, I get to see what a alpha can accomplish! 😀

Edit; Or 3

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**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1113 "2020-04-08T03:26:16Z")

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The game will limp along for sometime, games die hard, slowly spiraling down to the bottom of the MMO food chain.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1114 "2020-04-08T03:31:41Z")

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The wind is already out of my sails. I am aback against a lee shore…

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1115 "2020-04-08T03:33:04Z")

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Get the launches out and start pulling.

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**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1116 "2020-04-08T03:33:17Z")

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I think there are a few other space games out there, don’t know them. Might be a decent one, something to pass the time during the great shutdown.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1117 "2020-04-08T03:33:55Z")

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ROFL! Thanks, I needed that!!! 😄

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1118 "2020-04-08T03:34:51Z")

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> [@Mingshoa](#):
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> during the great shutdown.

Sigh… I hope they can pull it off!

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**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1119 "2020-04-08T03:37:05Z")

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Elite Dangerous looks interesting…I think I will give it a go…

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**Author:** ![Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aphrodite_sexy/32/420261_2.png) [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aphrodite_Sexy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1120 "2020-04-08T03:37:18Z")

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Look at guild wars 2. It’s free to play and it earns quite a lot of money. Eve should be a game where anyone has a grinding dream, and anyone who spends enough hours on in should be able to afford an omega. CCP should just try to profit off the amount of time spent rather than the amount of money spent.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1121 "2020-04-08T03:39:16Z")

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I already looked into it. It’s just not the same. Lucky me, I have about 2 yrs of work on my new house. 😉 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1122 "2020-04-08T03:42:05Z")

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Play guild wars 2 for years, and FFXIV and WoW, maybe I just need to drink and watch TV like Homer

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1123 "2020-04-08T03:42:40Z")

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I still say CCP should give players their own bot to grind mining. Or something like that. How miners stay awake is beyond me? And one of my acct’s is a miner. 😬

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**Author:** ![Alias\_Kova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alias_kova/32/196568_2.png) [@Alias\_Kova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alias_Kova)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1124 "2020-04-08T03:44:09Z")

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PVE player counts. CCP should respect all players. Sad for this modification.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1125 "2020-04-08T03:48:11Z")

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Remember what I said a few years back about balance in general?

I said, ‘in order to balance the things, ships and modules, you must not only give but also take away…’.

Glad to see it only took you half a decade to catch up on this one.

So this may have been answered already but what heck is going on with the Eagle??

It would be very new to me to hear about Eagles roaming around, killing sooper doopers and titan all day and someone sad complaining about it.  
The Eagle is also not the fastest ship in EVE, so what gives??

Now the Eagle with a mwd on will be outrun by the Corax without a prop mod.

How about changing the triglavian interceptor, going 3km/s without a nano on, having a gun with small electron blaster tracking out to 70km, ramping up 2000+dps??

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**Author:** ![Chadwikk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadwikk/32/267555_2.png) [@Chadwikk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadwikk)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1126 "2020-04-08T03:52:16Z")

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What a joke of a change, if you want to balance the game and create more ‘bloody battles’ you need to pick specific areas that are over/underpowered and fix them which will encourage more fighting. Why is the kiki not being nerfed? Why such hard nerfs to the loki and why take the legion out to the woodshed and put it down? Why no buffs for some of the useless t3 destroyers? No fix to projectile falloff that has made 90% of minmatar ships useless with AC.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1127 "2020-04-08T03:55:32Z")

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After 1000 post, at least 50% of the people posting on this thread still believe that this nerf directly translate into 20% EHP loss, and therefore ask for ridiculous things like “reduce NPC damages by 20%!!”

And then they will probably complain that CCP doesn’t listen to their feedback.

But, who on earth would listen to feedbacks from people who apparently are not even capables of primary school level maths?

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1128 "2020-04-08T03:55:50Z")

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> [@Mingshoa](#):
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> Soon we will be ganking our own alts for fun

Hahaha or even without noticing it hahaha I can imagine such a scene it would be hilarious

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1129 "2020-04-08T03:59:13Z")

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> [@Mingshoa](#):
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> Elite Dangerous looks interesting…I think I will give it a go…

People say stuff like this every time CCP rolls out a patch, and time after time, year after year, the impacts to EVE are [as devastating as sesame seeds being pulled from the market](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_i4iRomvM)… 🙃

> [@Aphrodite\_Sexy](#):
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> Look at guild wars 2. It’s free to play and it earns quite a lot of money. Eve should be a game where anyone has a grinding dream, and anyone who spends enough hours on in should be able to afford an omega. CCP should just try to profit off the amount of time spent rather than the amount of money spent.

It is incredulously easy to PLEX Omega with casual game play, including solo and from Alpha, using readily affordable fits even when PLEX prices were peaked. And no mining is required. Many vets I’ve spoken to have said it’s too easy: a major point of imbalance is the laughable ease in which some players - not even those with 50x accounts or 40 hours of weekly gameplay - are effortlessly procuring Large Skill Injectors en masse through in-game generation of ISK. The primary difference between you and them isn’t number of accounts used, numbers of hour invested into the game, or extent to which ships used are blinged, but simply knowledge.

It’s also worth pointing out that the more people who opt for PLEX instead of paying $$$, the more rapidly PLEX supply dries up and PLEX prices rise accordingly, at which point people either $$$ because they don’t want to grind ISK for PLEX or because they want to buy PLEX for the ISK conversion, so $$$ is being spent either way 🤷‍♂️

I should also point out that “grinding” is not desirable game play. Fortunately, there are no shortage of ways in which profit is generated as a byproduct of the desired gameplay for which you are on EVE in the first place rather than needing to grind now to “actually play” later. I do, however, give props to CCP to shaking up necessary but previously monotonous things like mining by, for example, tossing trigs into belts, moving conflict into hisec with resource redistribution, and letting non-AFK miners be engaged doing more than D-Scanning by doing Project Discovery, which requires 0 ISK 0 SP 0 Assets (and 0 undocking), in belts to net an additional 45m/hr in ISK + numerous level up rewards per hour and occasional milestone rewards. Still… mining does not have to be part of the equation when it comes to solo casual gameplay PLEXing Omega.

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