# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Tags:** official, devblog\
**Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1641 "2020-04-08T20:40:15Z")

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Ok, give it to me then. 😀

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**Author:** ![Darke\_Soulburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darke_soulburn/32/342236_2.png) [@Darke\_Soulburn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darke_Soulburn)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1642 "2020-04-08T20:41:42Z")

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Issue is this is still making up minority of players, most are players are just trying to get somewhere, are “space poor” or are just starting and from their pov this is nothing but branch thrown under their legs when they want to enjoy game.

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**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1643 "2020-04-08T20:43:57Z")

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Demand went up for ore. Your rewards, if you choose to stay, are potentially higher.

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**Author:** ![Jaek\_Ryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaek_ryan/32/191159_2.png) [@Jaek\_Ryan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaek_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1644 "2020-04-08T20:54:31Z")

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Thank you for the clarification. I honestly have never been the victim of a suicide ganker. I have never had an interest in the mechanics of it because I have no interest in taking part in such a cowardly act. As far as I’m concerned anyone who does so isn’t a PVPer. They’re wanna-be PVPers. a true PVPer isn’t afraid of taking on someone who could possibly fight back. I equate suicide gankers to the vermin who sit outside starting corporations and trick new bro’s into triggering the mechanics (which they don’t fully understand yet) needed to make the victim the aggressor. All that being said this by no means changes my point. These changes encourage more of these cowardly acts.

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**Author:** ![10\_Ton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/10_ton/32/196784_2.png) [@10\_Ton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/10_Ton)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1646 "2020-04-08T21:02:27Z")

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This is worrisome. But I suppose, as a PVE player for over a decade, if the changes don’t nerf being able to solo lvl4 missions and epic missions, I’m indifferent. Otherwise, I’m gone, or at least downgrading to Alpha. (And BTW so are my other 9 accounts)

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**Author:** ![Donkey\_Hoatie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/donkey_hoatie/32/196334_2.png) [@Donkey\_Hoatie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Donkey_Hoatie)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1648 "2020-04-08T21:13:07Z")

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@CCP_Dopamine @CCP_Rattati By all means please read this and consider (possibly reconsider)

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**Author:** ![Dorregaray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dorregaray/32/280644_2.png) [@Dorregaray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dorregaray)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1649 "2020-04-08T21:28:22Z")

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Can’t wait to see how player count drops after this goes live.

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**Author:** ![Jaek\_Ryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaek_ryan/32/191159_2.png) [@Jaek\_Ryan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaek_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1650 "2020-04-08T21:30:34Z")

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Spoiled??? It’s the PVPer’s who are getting spoiled by CCP! There is no balance to this change. it is all biased towards the PVP side of the game. I’m a PVEer. I don’t enjoy taking things that others have worked hard for and destroying them, but I imagine you do!

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**Author:** ![Elekai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elekai/32/469831_2.png) [@Elekai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elekai)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1651 "2020-04-08T21:46:54Z")

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> [@Surgical Strike Update Follow-up](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-update-follow-up/231061/1):
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> **Suicide Ganking and the Void buff**
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> This topic is more complicated to untangle but it is certainly not our intention to make suicide ganking easier or cheaper. While divorcing damage increases from suicide ganking is not simple, we are planning to increase freighter hp while we do some investigation on the current state of high sec ganks. Depending on results from those investigations we will look at further changes if necessary.

Yes, it is very simple.

Solution: If target is within x km of a highsec stargate or npc station increase resist by x%.  
Could be achieved many ways, easiest and dirtiest would be to have stargates/stations radiate a constant command burst, code is already in the game just need to apply it to a different asset and change values.

20 mins work tops. Chuck it on sisi for a week or two and monitor change. Adjust as needed. Done.

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**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1652 "2020-04-08T21:47:19Z")

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RIP mining, industry, trade and now PvE lol just freed 24Gb of my HDD. Don’t threat CCP just do it, there is a life out of this crap. This is my PvCCP 🙂 🔴

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1653 "2020-04-08T21:51:15Z")

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> [@Elekai](#):
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> Solution: If target is within x km of a highsec stargate or npc station increase resist by x%.  
> Could be achieved many ways, easiest and dirtiest would be to have stargates/stations radiate a constant command burst, code is already in the game just need to apply it to a different asset and change values.
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> 20 mins work tops. Chuck it on sisi for a week or two and monitor change. Adjust as needed. Done.

Ah, spoken just like someone who has never tried to program anything in his life.

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**Author:** ![Elekai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elekai/32/469831_2.png) [@Elekai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elekai)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1654 "2020-04-08T21:52:55Z")

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Have you got a single player rpg from the last decade that you have installed mods for on your pc? Theres a better chance than not you have code written by me on your pc right now.

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**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1655 "2020-04-08T21:55:14Z")

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Writing out the code isn’t difficult, specially for development teams.  
It’s playing whack-a-mole with all the bugs that pop up when you start goofing around with things.

It just comes down to billable hours. I hope all the hours being paid out to the folks working on this are making it worth it for the future of the game. Not just keeping themselves busy to stay employed.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1656 "2020-04-08T21:56:32Z")

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> [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](#):
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> Writing out the code isn’t difficult, specially for development teams.  
> It’s playing whack-a-mole with all the bugs that pop up when you start goofing around with things.

Yeah, whatever. That’s not a 20 minute job like that kid said.

> [@Elekai](#):
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> 20 mins work tops. Chuck it on sisi for a week or two and monitor change. Adjust as needed. Done.

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**Author:** ![Ronimil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ronimil/32/243336_2.png) [@Ronimil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ronimil)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1657 "2020-04-08T21:57:47Z")

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Great PVP changes, and I like this update very much! It does affect PVE people badly.

15% more DPS AND less resists = way more freighter/miner ganks which in turn raises ship/modules prices, which will go up even more with more ships blowing up. JF service costs will probably go up as well.  
The DPS gain should offset resist loss for PVE. The faster stuff dies, the less DPS you take. Just use T2 ammo!

Overall though I like it since I don’t JF or mine! 🙂

Thanks CCP!

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1659 "2020-04-08T21:59:16Z")

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I’m reasonably sure you didn’t mean to reply to _me_ when you wrote that.

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**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1661 "2020-04-08T22:20:07Z")

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Where are CCP employees???  
You must RESPECT PVE players!!!  
We have figure out many numbers and consequences for you in this post, if you still think that nerf to all ships is a good solution to capitals, it will be the last straw for many, if not all, non-pvp players.

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**Author:** ![Jaek\_Ryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaek_ryan/32/191159_2.png) [@Jaek\_Ryan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaek_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1662 "2020-04-08T22:28:09Z")

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They’re going to have to address mining vessels (Venture, Barges, Exhumers, Mining command ships) as well, not just freighters.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1663 "2020-04-08T22:29:15Z")

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> [@Jaek\_Ryan](#):
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> They’re going to **have to** address mining vessels

They don’t, actually.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1664 "2020-04-08T22:30:04Z")

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Again, I’m like 90% sure you are responding to someone else. I have never mentioned freighters _or_ mining ships in these two threads.

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