# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Ultimate\_Acer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ultimate_acer/32/168308_2.png) [@Ultimate\_Acer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ultimate_Acer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1719 "2020-04-09T08:54:17Z")
If make the math a pith a type now has 46,8% Minus 20% is 37,5%. That equals a gistum c type pre nerf. Sure it is more expensive. But you dont loose a 10/10 ship and it has payed it self of a long time ago a 1.4 b (1.4b because you can sell your old gist c types for 600) upgrade to keep making isk sounds ok for me. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1720 "2020-04-09T09:02:39Z")
One side favoring ‘improvements’ are none…they are just nerfs for only one side… This is what THIS TIME it is all about. And the consequence will be a huge player loss,even greater than it was during the PVE ‘favor’ phase(which was actually none because it only corrected a lot of injustices PVE suffered against PVP). But THIS ‘update’ that is clearly targetting ALL non PVP activities is simply ridiculously offending and it rages so many that are not PVP that CCP will be forced to take this crap back or lose half of their playerbase… It’s not only this thread…look at other ones and talk to people ingame. Bottom line… ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1721 "2020-04-09T09:09:21Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Read this thread… > > This alone proves i’m absolutely right… Lol, no, reading this thread proves you’re a moron and your ‘ideas’ have no basis in reality, it absolutely does not prove you are right… about anything! But you made me laugh again, keep up the good work! 😃 Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1722 "2020-04-09T09:12:50Z")
> [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](#): > > Lol, no, reading this thread proves you’re a moron and your ‘ideas’ have no basis in reality, it absolutely does not prove you are right… about anything! > > But you made me laugh again, keep up the good work! 😃 > > Regards, > Cypr3ss. Just because CCP is desperate about the player loss and falls from one extreme into the other exactly proves NOTHING. They are just too cowardly to change their game to a status where lost players would actually RETURN so they just sugar coat one side in the hope they would stay. But this will hugely backfire and i bet they will NEVER understand what they did wrong in the first place… Happy eve with let’s be generous 10k people online will be the future of this game… Brave new eve buddy… ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1723 "2020-04-09T09:18:31Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Happy eve with let’s be genous 10k people online will be the future of this game… I’m just going to leave this here: > **[Genius - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms](https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/genius)** > > Genius is an exceptional talent or skill, something above and beyond the norm. A genius is someone who possesses this brilliance, like a child prodigy who learned the piano at age 3 and played sold-out concerts by age 5. Enjoy! Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1724 "2020-04-09T09:21:29Z")
> [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](#): > > I’m just going to leave this here: > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/d/1daaae54f4e2a8a722a3f7b46daad8edea4d53fe.png) [Vocabulary.com](https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/genius) > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c91f6995d55e51b6fa9f29986dbeb291acdbb46a.gif) > > ### [genius - Dictionary Definition](https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/genius) > > Genius is an exceptional talent or skill, something above and beyond the norm. A genius is someone who possesses this brilliance, like a child prodigy who learned the piano at age 3 and played sold-out concerts by age 5. > > Enjoy! > > Cypr3ss. Yeah i see you are simply too stupid to understand what i am saying…so you insult an non native speaker as only exit. But that’s ok… CCP will NEED players like you in the future to pay the bills… Easy,uncritical people that support every imposition they will do to the players… Have much much fun buddy… ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1725 "2020-04-09T09:24:04Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Yeah i see you are simply to stupid to understand what i am saying…so you insult an non native speaker as only exit. It was an attempt to improve your vocabulary, if you wish to take it as an insult, that’s on you. Also, if anything you said made sense, it would be easy to understand. It does not, so here we are. Keep up the good work! Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Ultimate\_Acer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ultimate_acer/32/168308_2.png) [@Ultimate\_Acer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ultimate_Acer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1726 "2020-04-09T09:24:43Z")
It is always the same…ccp does a change that is healty for the game. People cry because they have to Think about how to play in the Future and not doing the same like the last years. Btw if you do the math it is not that big of a Deal you loose like 6%ehp and most pve ships are overtanked anyway. For me personaly These changes are refreshing and good. Deal with it or leave ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1727 "2020-04-09T09:28:58Z")
> [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](#): > > Keep up the good work! I will…you not so much. All i hear from you are rise ups and excuses(for CCP and yourself). I at least bring in suggestions… Think about who is taken more serious(i bet you inside your bubble see yourself as the only possible answer,which is totally wrong but conviniend for you)… ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1728 "2020-04-09T09:30:09Z")
> [@Ultimate\_Acer](#): > > It is always the same…ccp does a change that is healty for the game. People cry because they have to Think about how to play in the Future and not doing the same like the last years. > Btw if you do the math it is not that big of a Deal you loose like 6%ehp and most pve ships are overtanked anyway. > > For me personaly These changes are refreshing and good. > Deal with it or leave It’s NOT ‘healthy for the game’,not even close… This is what this rage is all about. ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1729 "2020-04-09T09:31:13Z")
Wow you guys talk a lot of ■■■■. if Pve gets harder that just means the people who still find a way to do that pve afterwards will just get more iskies for it, same demand less supply so tough it out unless your a quiter. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1730 "2020-04-09T09:35:28Z")
You are wrong… Maybe this was the case 10 years ago but 2020 people will just leave and play something else… ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1731 "2020-04-09T09:37:35Z")
So why are you still here? Just leave already and be done with it. Oh, and can I have your stuff? 🙂 Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1732 "2020-04-09T09:38:36Z")
Why should i? Am i too unconviniend for you? Well that’s not the first time i hear this,and it will not be the last… ---
**Author:** ![Ulder\_Saissore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulder_saissore/32/389025_2.png) [@Ulder\_Saissore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulder_Saissore)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1733 "2020-04-09T09:39:46Z")
IDK CPP, What if I train into battleships and then you nerfed them in a way that they become irreconocible? Other months/years wasted in sp that don’t give me the function, fun and style of game for what I trained into in first place. ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1734 "2020-04-09T09:43:21Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Why should i? > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > 2020 people will just leave and play something else… > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > They are just to cowardly to change their game to a status where lost players would actually RETURN so they just sugar coat one side in the hope they would stay. > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > And the consequence will be a huge player loss,even greater than it was during the PVE ‘favor’ phase(which was actually none because it only corrected a lot of injustices PVE suffered against PVP). > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > If you want a civilized discussion announce that this crap will NEVER go live… > > This is the ONLY way to keep this civilized… > > This will loose you SO many pve players(which are whatever the loudmouthed PVP side is claiming are the majority here) you will paddle back your boat really quick and we (who are not pvp) told you from the start… You seem convinced that these changes will have a significant impact on the player numbers, yet you’re the only one spewing this tripe. If you were to leave the forums would be a much nicer place. It’s quite simple, really. > [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > Am i too unconviniend for you? And I simply do not know what it is you are trying to say here… do you mean inconvenient? If so the answer is no, you’re just annoying, like an ant at a BBQ… I could simply choose to ignore you, but it’s more fun to play with it! 🤪 Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1735 "2020-04-09T10:02:11Z")
So what you want from me is a proof that i can see into the future and not just stating my opinion? Really? Well i guess you also cannot prove my OPINION wrong in any other form than a guess… So why should I leave and you can stay here? And the only possible reaosn for THIS can be your dislike of my opinion. And this is (sugar coated response) not nice. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1736 "2020-04-09T10:04:41Z")
> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#): > > Wow you guys talk a lot of ■■■■. if Pve gets harder that just means the people who still find a way to do that pve afterwards will just get more iskies for it, same demand less supply so tough it out unless your a quiter. Only for market driven pay outs. Ratting is ratting, and bounty is bounty its litterally how much DPS you can crap out. LP based payouts, have always been more market centrict …Invasions are basically crap and you have to have a lot of faith in whoever is doing the marketing. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1737 "2020-04-09T10:05:50Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > One side favoring ‘improvements’ You do know that those PvE players called Incursion runners are literally salivating at this update, they will make MORE ISK from this, as they will kill tower bashes so much faster. Miners should be salivating as it will make their work worth more. I mean really, this update buffs just as much PvE as it nerfs. Maybe ease up on the personally motivated rants a touch. You’ll get taken far more seriously if you don’t try and speak for everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1738 "2020-04-09T10:12:56Z")
> [@Ulder\_Saissore](#): > > IDK CPP, What if I train into battleships and then you nerfed them in a way that they become irreconocible? Other months/years wasted in sp that don’t give me the function, fun and style of game for what I trained into in first place. so? what if you train into something crappy and it gets buffed? Most of skills have application outside of the that one ship anyway. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=69) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569.md?page=71)