# Surgical Strike – Coming 15 April **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569 "2020-04-07T11:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wade_deadpool_willson/32/169216_2.png) [@Wade\_Deadpool\_Willson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wade_Deadpool_Willson)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1867 "2020-04-10T12:14:57Z")
In the process they failed to notice the object was swapped and they started to milk themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Shaemell\_Buttleson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shaemell_buttleson/32/196718_2.png) [@Shaemell\_Buttleson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shaemell_Buttleson)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1868 "2020-04-10T12:33:04Z")
As I said yesterday I can’t see how this plan will effect Capitals any more than it will other ship types. However I don’t think the changes are too drastic for everyone. We lose a bit of resist on our tanks but gain more DPS to kill the belt rats or mission rats faster, by that token it sort of equals out. Most people are really over-tanked for level 4 missions anyway. Level 5 missions were never intended to be soloed and as for complex’s and the like nor were they. The players that will suffer are the ones who haul lots of things and miners in hi sec who will get ganked a little easier and lets face it the ones who fall prey to this are usually (not always I know) not paying attention or afk. Having higher resistances very rarely count for much if they want to get you. It will mean that they won’t need to have as many people on the suicide attack for the bigger HP ships as before. But I bet suicide gank rate percentage won’t rise as much as the percentage loss on the resistances. CCP have already since posted they are reviewing this so we’ll just have to wait and see. It’s a little bit early to start saying it’s going to ruin everything and stop paying your subs. ---
**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1869 "2020-04-10T13:03:01Z")
I just didn’t feel like logging in today. Guess the search for a new game to play begins. ---
**Author:** ![Zercix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zercix/32/378921_2.png) [@Zercix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zercix)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1870 "2020-04-10T13:25:51Z")
> [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > You, like me, have real world experience in the toughest lifestyle there is outside of being in the military. Careful there. Don’t want to pat yourself on your back too much. > [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > 2)Listen to your clients! If you don’t. SOMEONE ELSE WILL![/quote] > > 3)There’s always either someone else selling or there eventually will be. It might not be the same as what you’re selling,it might be COMPLETELY different, but the customer might go to him anyway, especially if you’ve given him reason to! Players have cried about changes like this since I have been around circa 2007. That is 13 years and every company that has tried to put out something to compare to EvE have fallen completely flat. 13+ years of EvE players, that could not handle the game or the changes, and nothing to compare to EvE has even remotely come close to being 'successful" much less capable of competing with EVE. Maybe you and your small business buddy above, since you both are so good at the ‘2nd hardest job in the world’, should team up and put those decades of running small business to use and finally bring us the game to end EvE, CCP, and all their 'bad business decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Kafka\_Eske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kafka_eske/32/197153_2.png) [@Kafka\_Eske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kafka_Eske)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1871 "2020-04-10T13:38:00Z")
I think if you take value away from the players (there may be good reasons for that, idk), there has to be a proper compensation and I can NOT see a proper compensation at all (for now) - if you try to sell it as “just a balancing upgrade”, this will most sincerely not work out. Players will know and I’m on the edge of quitting right now, too, because what changes do for me is, in short: making the game more expensive. Higher risk, lower income (which already is not that great, in fact) and more required warpouts to complete a site that may be worth the spent time. For I am a carebear, I really do not like that. I like playing the carebear style. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Dicer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alex_dicer/32/379312_2.png) [@Alex\_Dicer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alex_Dicer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1872 "2020-04-10T13:48:32Z")
So… Buff subcap self-reps by 20%? Or solo/smallscale pvp is no longer needed? ---
**Author:** ![Darke\_Soulburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darke_soulburn/32/342236_2.png) [@Darke\_Soulburn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darke_Soulburn)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1874 "2020-04-10T14:17:18Z")
1. Dark soul isn’t hard, never was, it is pattern game, you learn the pattern and then you can finish it easily on high latency dancing mat, it’s myth that get entrenched for whatever reason, it was never designed as hard game. 2. More dangerous? How is it more dangerous? Less people will risk stuff, that’s all. People are risking stuff when they feel surpulus in their assets. That is being taken away. If anything EVE was made more passive. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1875 "2020-04-10T14:24:43Z")
> [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > What I don’t get is this. Oh, but this I can explain, at least in part. It’s very easy to understand when one wants to, actually. Your first mistake is thinking you know things that you really don’t. Not being aware of one’s own ignorance is the biggest obstacle to learn and understand things. Your second mistake is not realising how many players silently quit the game out of boredom or because they don’t find it particularly interesting or engaging, **not** because of any of the reasons you _think_ are going to cause lots of players to quit after the changes. Your third mistake is not realising how selfish, short-sighted, irrelevant and misinformed, the “opinion” of the most vocal players often is in the case of a game like EvE. Balos and his current alt @Darlo_Kubika deserve special mention here 🤣. The fourth mistake that many here are making (don’t know if also you, because your posts are just rantings and you haven’t really explained what your problem with the changes is), is not understanding the effect that these changes will have on PvE activities. Except for the highest end PvE content (which may require CCP to make some adjustments if players cannot figure how to do them after the changes), all that will happen is that PvE will become a little more challenging, less profitable in _some_ cases, and may require to use a different fit, different tactics, or even a different ship than the one you liked to use. The latter may be particularly annoying, but is not the end of the world. Everything else being said about the effect of the changes on PvE is ■■■■■■■■ and utter ignorance. Making PvE more challenging is **intended** and, believe it or not, it’s a **good thing**. I’m not going to explain why. Up to you whether you can understand that or not. Not sure whether making it less profitable is also intended, but they sure don’t think it’s undesirable. Now, there is a lot more to these changes than their effect on PvE, but I myself have no idea whether much of it is going to be good or bad for the game, or whether things are going to work as expected by CCP to begin with. Moreover, critical details are missing in the case of ganking, which makes it impossible to figure what will end up happening there. FWIW, I wish they made less drastic and more gradual changes that required to make fewer adjustments afterwards than I think they’ll have to do… Hope that helps, and if not, well, sorry, but pretending that you know how CCP should run their business better than themselves simply because you’ve run _other_ businesses yourself, doesn’t make you look as smart as you seem to believe… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1876 "2020-04-10T14:46:38Z")
> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Dude, carebears have been telling PvPers to leave the game if they don’t like the constant PvP nerfs for over a _decade_ . Just a constant stream of “can I have your stuff?” or “griefer tears, hahaha!” drivel each and every time CCP buffs CONCORD, removes the ability to declare war, etc etc. We’re only giving back to you what you’ve been giving us for so long. That might make you sad, but don’t you think it’s at least _fair_ ? > > There NEVER was anything like a ‘PVE favor’…especially not for ‘a decade’. > > EVER… > > PVP was ALWAYS favored in any possible way… > > What you do is a simple,easy to see through,falsification of the history of this game… > > PVP does not DESERVE and NEED this huge buff since they have been spoiled since the game was started… Okay, do we really need to do this the hard way? Because you’re not making any concrete examples, and are just posting drivel IN CAPS TO WIN THE ARGUMENT BY TALKING MORE LOUDLY. So here’s a quick list for you of a bunch of changes CCP has implemented over the years that severely nerfed the ■■■■ out nonconsensual PvP: - CONCORD being made invulnerable, given stat boosts, and being made a kill trigger - Wars increased in cost by 25x - **MULTIPLE** CONCORD buffs to damage, e-war, and response time (I could make a line for each one but I’m too lazy) - Mining barge EHP boosted **significantly** across all types and tiers, and fitting options improved - Removing of fleet warfare aggro transfer (the Lofty scam) - Increasing criminal act security status penalties (you used to need to pod multiple people just to get to -2.0, and now all you need is one ship kill) - Making it _officially_ legal to repeatedly roll corporations to avoid wars, after disallowing it for many years - Removal of insurance payouts for deaths where CONCORD is involved - War costs becoming a function of amount of members the target has (so that a small corporation declaring war against a large one would pay orders of magnitude more than a large corporation declaring war against a small one - utterly asinine) - Introduction of the war ally system, which costs much less than declaring war does - Introduction of the “safety” button, making it impossible to trick someone into shooting you by employing social engineering - Crimewatch being introduced, leading to suspect timers, kill rights, et cetera (this really needs half a dozen separate bullet points, but I’m lazy) - Corporate friendly fire toggle virtually eliminating assassinations from the game - No longer being able to warp after committing a crime, instead of after CONCORD retaliation - Disallowing wars unless targets own assets in space And now is a list of all buffs to nonconsensual PvP, both direct and indirect: - War transfer mechanics making the “Dec Shield” impossible to work, because corporations could shed their wars repeatedly with one button click (this is basically a bug fix and not a new feature addition) - Tags-for-sec mechanic, which is admittedly convenient, but expensive as hell - Introduction of tier 3 BCs, which have BS-level damage but lower costs, and are as such pretty good for ganking, incidentally - Adding a small NPC corp tax for PvE activities Not a very even distribution of changes, wouldn’t you agree? Ah, who am I kidding? Of course you won’t agree. Everything short of a button that allows you to selectively turn off PvP in the game is a “PvP buff” to you. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1877 "2020-04-10T14:50:27Z")
LOL @ trying to explain things to @Darlo_Kubika (a.k.a. Balos) 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1878 "2020-04-10T14:51:56Z")
> [@Balvenie\_Fourteen](#): > > Instead of nerfing things, make other things better - and bring them up to par. This avoids people having to spend billions of isk to sell their crappy ships or try to refit them (and some quit in the process as this is beyond frustrating)… did you guys put any thought into this from a marketing perspective at all? It sure seems like you haven’t. Clearly it’s far from being a good solution, and only looks like it when you don’t actually take the time to analyze what you just wrote. I see at least two majors bad points here: -\>Just buffing everything leads to Powercreep, which as been pointed out as a major problem in several long-term games in the recent years, that became a joke because of too much powercreep. By now, game devs surely should have realised that this isn’t the good solution to everything. -\>People choose and invest into a specific ship because they think it’s THE BEST option for what they want to do, sometimes by far. If you buff other ships, suddently it’s advantage disappear. Maybe an other ship will have been buffed enough to actually became a better option. Maybe the feeling is not as bad as seeing your own ship directly nerfed, but at the end of the day, this is just almost the same result: The advantages you supposedly had by skilling into this specific ship are gone. Which lead to the conclusion that your idea doesn’t even solve this problem at all. In the end, we have Powercreep, known as being a bad thing for games, and we don’t even have an actual benefits for players. > [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > Bet neither of you clowns,Knowledge Miner and Nevyn Auscent who snarked at my “losing customers is never a good idea” has ever started and run a successful business. I’ve been doing it REPEATEDLY since I was 23. Not some dinky little lawn services either. 80% were successful and were either sold AT A PROFIT or I still have them! That’s why I have time to mess around on EVE. > > You certainly wouldn’t know this but that puts me on the “wrong” side of the 80/20 rule. Most of us who do this sort of thing only have 20 percent success with 80% failed businesses. > > You’re either employees (not that there’s anything wrong with that) or were unemployed even before beerbug > > Furthermore, point was of my stating the gist of a conversation I didn’t start, but was a part of. which I stated rather obliquely is another business lesson. > > There seems to be an attitude that there is only a vocal minority who are pissed off about this patch. These people haven’t posted about rage at this patch but they are most certainly, clearly and obviously PISSED OFF! > > A business reality is when you create one pissed off customer you have most likely created 200 more. I don’t feel like going into details why this is true ,but it most certainly is. That’s a very great bragging post, but the actual fun part is that you NEVER provide any answer to their statement. They said: “Pissing off customers can be bad, but should not stop you from doing changes that have more positive effects than bad effects”. And if you actually had the experience in business that you pretend to have, you would know that a business which is afraid of changes is likely to just die in a few months. Maybe you don’t lie about your business experiences, but clearly when it comes to debating, you are extremely bad. When you do a three paragraphs post, PLEASE answer the actual point of the conversation in at least ONE sentence, my dear business professionnal. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > LMAO, kid, you went full-batshit on me didn’t you? That’s what happen when he loose a debate, usually. At some point he goes crazy. But when he is calm, he is capable of good advices. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1879 "2020-04-10T14:56:17Z")
> [@Zercix](#): > > > [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > > > You, like me, have real world experience in the toughest lifestyle there is outside of being in the military. > > Careful there. Don’t want to pat yourself on your back too much. > > > [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > > > 2)Listen to your clients! If you don’t. SOMEONE ELSE WILL![/quote] > > > > 3)There’s always either someone else selling or there eventually will be. It might not be the same as what you’re selling,it might be COMPLETELY different, but the customer might go to him anyway, especially if you’ve given him reason to! > > Players have cried about changes like this since I have been around circa 2007. That is 13 years and every company that has tried to put out something to compare to EvE have fallen completely flat. 13+ years of EvE players, that could not handle the game or the changes, and nothing to compare to EvE has even remotely come close to being 'successful" much less capable of competing with EVE. Maybe you and your small business buddy above, since you both are so good at the ‘2nd hardest job in the world’, should team up and put those decades of running small business to use and finally bring us the game to end EvE, CCP, and all their 'bad business decisions. But don’t you understand? He is a **P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L B-U-S-I-N-E-S-S-M-A-N** who has “leveraged the synergies” to make many profits! Therefore, he is amply qualified to tell you how every company should be managed, what kind of cereal you should eat, etc. > [@Kafka\_Eske](#): > > I think if you take value away from the players (there may be good reasons for that, idk), there has to be a proper compensation and I can NOT see a proper compensation at all (for now) - if you try to sell it as “just a balancing upgrade”, this will most sincerely not work out. Players will know and I’m on the edge of quitting right now, too, because what changes do for me is, in short: making the game more expensive. Higher risk, lower income (which already is not that great, in fact) and more required warpouts to complete a site that may be worth the spent time. For I am a carebear, I really do not like that. I like playing the carebear style. These changes will hit everyone equally. Therefore, even though the equilibrium point will be adjusted, your overall efficiency as a player will not be much different in relation to others. If you make money 20% slower from running missions, then other players will too (miners might experience 20% more ganks, gankers might experience increased competition and a loss of loot value as prices come down, etc. etc.), which means your wealth generation will maintain its proportionality to everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1880 "2020-04-10T14:57:57Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > But don’t you understand? He is a **P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L B-U-S-I-N-E-S-S-M-A-N** who has “leveraged the synergies” to make many profits! Therefore, he is amply qualified to tell you how every company should be managed, what kind of cereal you should eat, etc. He looks like some of the business teachers I had in highschool, spending half of their classes bragging about how succesfull they were before becoming teachers. But, well, it was obvious that they were actually far from being any relevant in the business world if they ended-up here, as teachers, LMAO. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1881 "2020-04-10T15:18:13Z")
> [@Tintallei\_Sharan](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > But don’t you understand? He is a **P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L B-U-S-I-N-E-S-S-M-A-N** who has “leveraged the synergies” to make many profits! Therefore, he is amply qualified to tell you how every company should be managed, what kind of cereal you should eat, etc. > > He looks like some of the business teachers I had in highschool, spending half of their classes bragging about how succesfull they were before becoming teachers. > > But, well, it was obvious that they were actually far from being any relevant in the business world if they ended-up here, as teachers, LMAO. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/d/ffd31922355a11c79c37f7485e416701880af570.jpeg "The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg) ---
**Author:** ![Mingshoa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingshoa/32/196544_2.png) [@Mingshoa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingshoa)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1882 "2020-04-10T15:56:09Z")
Oh they lowered the cost of Omega by 15%. Let celebrate, get out your dancing umbrellas. ---
**Author:** ![Balvenie\_Fourteen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balvenie_fourteen/32/242760_2.png) [@Balvenie\_Fourteen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balvenie_Fourteen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1883 "2020-04-10T15:59:21Z")
Don’t bother replying to those trolls; this is literally all they do … maybe they want to give CCP the impression this is a good idea, so that CCP loses even more subs and thus Eve fails … maybe they have an axe to grind and this is their way to get back at CCP by pushing bad ideas and trolling honest feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1888 "2020-04-10T16:06:06Z")
The nerf to survivability is going to upset so many playstyles outside of capitals. I’m gonna play something else while the dust settles. I’ve been playing Star Traders: Frontiers for my PVE fix. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1889 "2020-04-10T16:06:46Z")
> [@Balvenie\_Fourteen](#): > > Don’t bother replying to those trolls; this is literally all they do … maybe they want to give CCP the impression this is a good idea, so that CCP loses even more subs and thus Eve fails … ROFLMAO. I’m having the best laughs I’ve had on the forums (and out of the forums) in months. 🤣 🤣 🤣 CCP please announce changes like these more often. Cancel them with a note afterwards saying it was a joke or something, but please do this more often… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Altair\_Taurus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altair_taurus/32/249408_2.png) [@Altair\_Taurus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altair_Taurus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1890 "2020-04-10T16:06:57Z")
> [@Balvenie\_Fourteen](#): > > Don’t bother replying to those trolls Maybe those two are forum alts of @CCP_Rise and @CCP_Dopamine? Maybe they like to prop up themselves? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kim\_Jong\_Ihl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kim_jong_ihl/32/196547_2.png) [@Kim\_Jong\_Ihl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kim_Jong_Ihl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/surgical-strike-coming-15-april/230569/1891 "2020-04-10T16:08:08Z")
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